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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by cercatrova »

lelandfe wrote: post #298
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

Notice how even after all that bloviation he doesn't actually answer the question.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by technofiend »

bdefore wrote: post #292
technofiend wrote: post #137

I can't think of any other service from Google that's more weirdly polarizing, although Google's Pixel phones probably run a close second. People either find Stadia useful and say they use it regularly, or they hate it to the point they seemingly spend their days telling everyone how terrible Stadia is, how it was doomed from the start, how investing in the platform is a waste of time and money, etc. Oddly, you get t…

That's an odd comparison. Unlike Stadia, if the Pixel phone division shuts down you still have a working phone. Forums will be forums and the trolls get the spotlight. Pixel phones, particularly the cheaper 'a' models, are very popular and good value. What significant things are much better on non-Google Android phones?

>... you still have a working phone

You do, but if Google literally dropped support of their phones, you'd never get another security update, so it'd be in your best interest to move although not mandatory like if Stadia shut down. The comparison is about peoples' visceral reaction to Google products when they're disappointed, not specifically when the product is dropped.

> What significant things are much better on non-Google Android phones?

Not my point and frankly I have no clue: I've had a google android phone of some kind or another since the G1, which if that reference is lost on you is the original android phone.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by Edman274 »

adamc wrote: post #316
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

This will leave gamers with a strong, strong anti-Google perspective.

So what? What are they going to do - start using Bing and only watching videos on Vimeo and Nebula? Google can keep doing this for eternity as long as it doesn't result in people getting ads served from someone else.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by tempest_ »

Ekaros wrote: post #343
cptskippy wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's not wrong. All my games are in the cloud and it is great; it's just not Google's cloud.

You know why I keep buying stuff on Steam? This is why... It is putting all the eggs in single basket, but at least it is the sturdiest and oldest basket.

It helps that Valve is privately owned and thus less likely to chase growth over other things.

Hopefully when the current owners age out the new leadership will continue as it is.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

lelandfe wrote: post #298
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

> The same happened to Movies and Photos and my Docs and other files… And it’s great

When I think about it, my family still has photographs from 70 years ago sitting around in family albums.

Whereas I now struggle to find pictures I took 7 years ago.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by bushbaba »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #190
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

This is why I don't sign on to anything new google does for a few years now. It's going to be buggy but promising initially, then be poorly supported, and then be cancelled leaving you high and dry. If I was a large shareholder I'd be yelling to ditch Sundar everyday. The guy is a total idiot just floating by on ads dollars. Google could be so much more if they reorganized into conventional dedicated teams and stoppe…

Sundar is doing what the shareholders want. Grow ads revenue while distracting regulators from a google anti trust lawsuit.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by JJMcJ »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #190
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

This is why I don't sign on to anything new google does for a few years now. It's going to be buggy but promising initially, then be poorly supported, and then be cancelled leaving you high and dry. If I was a large shareholder I'd be yelling to ditch Sundar everyday. The guy is a total idiot just floating by on ads dollars. Google could be so much more if they reorganized into conventional dedicated teams and stoppe…

Maps, Voice, and Docs, seem to be here to stay. Not sure about anything else. Except Search, of course, I suppose they won't close that down any time soon.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

gambiting wrote: post #345
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the product you're using isn't the one you bought.

That's like saying that if you're watching a blu ray rip of your own purchased disc, it isn't the same product you bought. Technically correct, but it's completely legal to rip your own discs(at least in the EU, can't comment on other countries).

I'm not even thinking about legality.

My issue with "just download a crack" is that I have to spend time hunting down the crack, and I can't be sure the crack won't include malware, or won't introduce bugs which only appear later in the game. The last of these has happened to me on multiple occasions. A cracked game is no longer the product I bought.

By contrast, when I buy a game on GOG, I get a product that is DRM Free and will work forever—and because it's the product I actually purchased, I receive some minimal level of assurance from the retailer.

I would feel somewhat differently if there was a single "universal" crack that worked on all Steam games, or even which worked on 95% of Steam games and failed in a predictable way on the remaining 5%. This is the case for iTunes TV Shows, and so I have no problem paying for those, because I can run them through some software and I know the DRM will get stripped correctly every time with no quality loss. I'm not aware of any such software for Steam games.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

goldenchrome wrote: post #358
dontreact wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like he left and got into Crypto? https://www.linkedin.com/in/doronichev/

He did. And before that he was in AR/VR. I know a few execs who have done similar hops: jumping from one hype space to the next in the hopes that one of them disrupts the whole industry and they get launched up in their career. A sort of VC fund with an investment size of one, yourself.

Nothing wrong with that. You owe nothing to the company. The company won’t be loyal to you, why should you be loyal to it?

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by bushbaba »

staticassertion wrote: post #241
Workaccount2 wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I don't sign on to anything new google does for a few years now. It's going to be buggy but promising initially, then be poorly supported, and then be cancelled leaving you high and dry. If I was a large shareholder I'd be yelling to ditch Sundar everyday. The guy is a total idiot just floating by on ads dollars. Google could be so much more if they reorganized into conventional dedicated teams and stoppe…

Yeah, I'm always very skeptical of new Google services. I use GSuite and Chromebooks, but I know those are heavily used internally at Google and I believe that they'll continue to invest in those. But every other service, nah. Between their inability to provide support while a service is up and their consistent lack of long term vision/ investment for the services they create, it's just not worth it. I can't imagine…

Have you tried the most recent ms office suite updates. Give it a solid month of use before brushing it off.

Can’t say google workspaces is better.

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