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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by gambiting »

MichaelCollins wrote: post #254
gambiting wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>I don't see much substantial difference between these two scenarios. In one you paid for the product, in other you didn't. I'd think that's a pretty substantial difference?

The two scenarios I'm comparing (and finding not much difference between) are: > You "buy" the game from Stadia, it's taken from you, so now you pirate the game. > You "buy" the game from Steam, it's taken from you, so now you download the pirate's crack to the game. In either case, the original developer received compensation so I don't think you should feel any moral obligations to anybody. Morally they're equivale…

Yeah I think I can agree with that. The two scenarios you posted are equal in my mind. I was thinking more about a scenario where you bought a game from steam, then used a pirate crack to play it, vs a scenario where you didn't buy a game, just pirated it. Those two aren't the same - obviously.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by emanuele232 »

okwubodu wrote: post #141
Ken_At_EM wrote: post #24

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It is highly unethical to take away copies of the game that players had to pay full price for. Stadia owes them a retail copy of the games they purchased.

What we need is a portable digital license. Like a card we can store in a sort of internet wallet and present to storefronts to get access to a game. That way publishers wouldn’t be able to bully customers to the extent they currently do. No way the gaming community would be opposed to such a thing.

nft non ironically?

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by Ekaros »

cptskippy wrote: post #334
lelandfe wrote: post #298

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> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

He's not wrong. All my games are in the cloud and it is great; it's just not Google's cloud.

You know why I keep buying stuff on Steam? This is why... It is putting all the eggs in single basket, but at least it is the sturdiest and oldest basket.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by Schroedingersat »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #190
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

This is why I don't sign on to anything new google does for a few years now. It's going to be buggy but promising initially, then be poorly supported, and then be cancelled leaving you high and dry. If I was a large shareholder I'd be yelling to ditch Sundar everyday. The guy is a total idiot just floating by on ads dollars. Google could be so much more if they reorganized into conventional dedicated teams and stoppe…

Not just google. See playsforsure, amazon drive etc

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by gambiting »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #237
gambiting wrote: post #212

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>>I don't see much substantial difference between these two scenarios. In one you paid for the product, in other you didn't. I'd think that's a pretty substantial difference?

But the product you're using isn't the one you bought.

That's like saying that if you're watching a blu ray rip of your own purchased disc, it isn't the same product you bought. Technically correct, but it's completely legal to rip your own discs(at least in the EU, can't comment on other countries).

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Post by InefficientRed »

lenova wrote: post #300

I'd like to be a counterpoint for the Stadia bashing here: I'm not much of a gamer, but I've always been interested in playing Red Dead Redemption 2. However, I neither had a console nor a PC with a decent enough graphics card. This spring, I picked up a Google TV with Chromecast, and realized I could pair any bluetooth device with it. I bought a cheapo PS4-like controller off of Amazon, saw that RDR2 was on sale on…

> casual gamer

Same.

I had a month off between jobs and used a week of my evenings off to play through red dead.

I don't particularly care about losing the license, because I just wanted to play the game through. Haven't touched it since then.

Stadia's ideal market wasn't "real gamers" -- those folks will buy rigs. Their ideal market was people like you and me, who don't have the time or interest to justify purchasing a gaming machine but still want to play through a AAA title or two every once in a while.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by MichaelCollins »

macspoofing wrote: post #171
Larrikin wrote: post #18

"The source also claims that there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." There clearly needs to be a law to make such things illegal. I've refused to take the discount on digital Switch games since Nintendo has clearly shown they are willing to shut down old servers and tell you to just buy your games again. But…

>There clearly needs to be a law to make such things illegal. I've refused to take the discount on digital Switch games since Nintendo has clearly shown they are willing to shut down old servers and tell you to just buy your games again. The problem is that there really isn't a way to legislate it. The content is tied to the service (either the platform service like the Switch, or the game service itself), and if the…

> And there's piracy. I do not see any governments creating legislating to force publishers (or platform (e.g. Steam) or console manufacturers) to remove anti-piracy measures.

Decriminalization of piracy so people can support themselves would be a good start, but I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by solardev »

lelandfe wrote: post #298
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

People do cloud games all the time. Steam and geforce now and xcloud are great. We just don't trust Google because they don't give a damn.

Stadia was never marketed much and always had a tiny library with no cross play. The moment Nvidia stepped up, Stadia was dead.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by greenthrow »

chrisseaton wrote: post #288
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

> It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. Well they got to play the games? Not sure what you'd want to show? Like high-scores?

Are you serious? They bought the game, now they don't have the game. They didn't rent it.

Google still exists, and has plenty of money to make all Stadia customers whole by buying them a retail copy of all of the games. But they choose not to because they are greedy.

Note: I am not a Stadia customer because I figured this would happen.

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