A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

Post by divan » Sun, Jul 24, 2022, 4:45 PM UTC

cpursley wrote: post #349

divan wrote: post #230

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> This just screams negligence to me. This is very much a default mode for ex-USSR countries, especially russia. While russian bureocracy is extremely procedural, it has nothing to do with efficiency or safety (most of the regulations and laws in post-soviet countries are written not to increase safety or utility for population, but for controlling power and money flows and benefeting someone on the top).

I understand that a whole lot of people are upset with Russia right now, but this is completely unsubstantiated.

Post by amelius » Sun, Jul 24, 2022, 5:15 PM UTC

EUROCARE wrote: post #438

amelius wrote: post #431

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> there's simply no legal way how a company like Tesla or Mercedes could take responsibility for a crash This seems unlikely to be true, unless of course they weaseled themselves in this position.

Read through the laws about deciding blame in car crashes. There isn't a single word about transferring blame to the manufacturer, and thus it's not possible - and the law specifically says that the driver has responsibility. Nobody had to specifically weasel themselves into it, just the states kept sleeping a decade too long.

Post by allarm » Sun, Jul 24, 2022, 5:19 PM UTC

smsm42 wrote: post #90

It's Russia we're talking about. In Russia, the default mode of answering any complaint is "it's your own fault, we're not responsible, go away". It's not only on the big political scene - it's everywhere, from a village grocery store to a national federation. If you admit any mistake and any responsibility for anything, you're an idiot and a "loch" (pronounced the same as Scottish lake, but means a person to be take…

Post by smsm42 » Sun, Jul 24, 2022, 5:37 PM UTC

beebeepka wrote: post #341

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As in illustration, I'll relay you an actual story that I read from one Russian blogger (who witnessed it himself and I trust him that he did): The scene is a couchette car in an overnight train between two Russian cities (a very popular mode of transport in Russia). It's late at night, so most people are preparing to sleep or sleeping already, so it is pretty quiet. Except for the two slightly drunk guys in one end…

That's nothing. I once read an actual story on a US aggregator site. The scene is a guy whose knowledge of anything outside his country is lacking. A relatively common occurrence around where he's from. After being bombarded with all kinds of propaganda for decades he'd easily believe almost anything on the topic. Especially after several months of extreme 24/7 antagonism due to a horrible war. That's how culture wor…

Post by EUROCARE » Sun, Jul 24, 2022, 5:42 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #443

EUROCARE wrote: post #438

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Read through the laws about deciding blame in car crashes. There isn't a single word about transferring blame to the manufacturer, and thus it's not possible - and the law specifically says that the driver has responsibility. Nobody had to specifically weasel themselves into it, just the states kept sleeping a decade too long.

I'm not going to read through law texts, but I'm sure that there are provisions for the case where the manufacturer made a design error and is responsible for a crash.