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A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Video #2 should be required watching for anyone joining the conversation about the Russia - Ukraine war. Martti J. Kari (the lecturer) spent his whole career in the Finnish military studying Russia. The Russian mentality is _really_ hard to understand for a generic westerner. Russia has been lead by a conservative leader for 200-300 years. Lead by an autocratic leader (Tsar) for a good thousand years. The next Tsar w…

Three or four parties could easily happen in the USA of they'd change their electoral system. FPTP system and lack of culturally divergent regions (like Scotland in the UK) is the reason there are no third / fourth powers. If, say, half of Congress were elected by party lists, there'd be a lot of political diversity fast.

Except that will never happen either, for the reasons you gave.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Regarding your Edit: Really? Guilt by association, purity test questions and projection/assumptions towards me? Speaking of fascist attitudes...

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Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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That explains a Russian traveler I met at an airport once who asked me for bus fare to some tourist destination. I declined and the bus left without him. He and his girlfriend passed me later and he said "Thanks to you we can't go to (wherever).". I couldn't really understand how someone could be that entitled, but if it's more a blame-others-by-default attitude, it makes more sense.

Yes, let's judge an entire culture by a random bus stop experience. Replace "Russian" with "Black" and this would be considered a racist post.

So? This is a thread about culture and governments, not race. If you want to have the race argument go find another thread.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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This is appalling. There is no world in which an industrial robot like that should be operating next to a child. Their force sensors are not nearly sensitive enough to stop before causing serious injury. Going fast enough, they can absolutely kill you. This just screams negligence to me. Cannot believe they tried to blame it on the child. There are robots, called Cobots, designed specifically for this type of environ…

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Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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To be clear, any answer short of, "this was a failure on our part to protect the children who attended, and as the leader of the organization, responsibility falls on me. We will make this right for the family and I will tender my resignation" is not adequate.

>> I will tender my resignation whats with this attitude?

He's responsible for a gross oversight in safety that led to an injured child. There were obvious and simple safety precautions that were missed.

This wasn't just, "whoops", this was fairly gross negligence.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Not exactly the same but there's the legendary McDonald's lawsuit after some customer burned his finger after dropping his coffee.

You mean this case? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restau... Where a 79 year old woman suffered 3rd degree burns to her pelvic region after spilling coffee in her lap?

Yeah I think so. I think I misremembered the burned area due to some standup that made fun of this later.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Video #2 should be required watching for anyone joining the conversation about the Russia - Ukraine war. Martti J. Kari (the lecturer) spent his whole career in the Finnish military studying Russia. The Russian mentality is _really_ hard to understand for a generic westerner. Russia has been lead by a conservative leader for 200-300 years. Lead by an autocratic leader (Tsar) for a good thousand years. The next Tsar w…

France had been ruled by kings, and before that, the Roman Empire for thousands of years, and then one day we had a revolution and became freedom-loving leftists. Same can happen in Russia -indeed, same DID happen in Russia, until the USSR turned into a totalitarian state under Stalin. Also, the US can totally have a multi-party system if they reform their electoral system. [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duver…

But the ones who decide on reforming the system are the two parties - who don't want to dilute their power to other parties.

Thus: it'll never happen.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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I don't see how the number of people 'denying responsibility and lying' depends on the exposure to government propaganda saying that Russia is doing good and justified thing right now. If you believe you are right and what is contrary to this belief is only a fake, you don't need to lie and there is no responsibility for something you didn't do.

Then we fundamentally disagree in how human psychology works: I believe that if authorities (be they government officials, parents or others) habitually lie and cheat, then that behavior becomes socially sanctioned as a way to get ahead. Thus you end up with more “shitty people” (and a worse society)

No argument here, but my point is that if you believe lies and don't notice that you are being cheated, it doesn't corrupt you.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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post #411

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I don't see how the number of people 'denying responsibility and lying' depends on the exposure to government propaganda saying that Russia is doing good and justified thing right now. If you believe you are right and what is contrary to this belief is only a fake, you don't need to lie and there is no responsibility for something you didn't do.

Then we fundamentally disagree in how human psychology works: I believe that if authorities (be they government officials, parents or others) habitually lie and cheat, then that behavior becomes socially sanctioned as a way to get ahead. Thus you end up with more “shitty people” (and a worse society)

And by the way, when you hear Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen say 'The United States will impose harsh consequences on countries that break the international economic order' and then ironically blaming Russia instead of her own country [0], do you feel how society becomes a little bit worse?

[0] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/yellen-says-us-will-impose-...

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