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Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Come on, there is no way they are that cartoonish.

It's not cartoonish, it's the culture. Of course it's not homogenous - you can find a lot of people that go against the mainstream. In a hyper-macho culture you can find males who are shy and sensitive, in an introverted culture valuing privacy and closeness you can find people who are extroverted and exuberant, in a culture where accepting blame is not encouraged you can find a lot of people that will readily do tha…

Dude, you are just projecting your spite. This would be laughable if I didn't know you were serious. So it's actually just scary how how you make things up.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Come on, there is no way they are that cartoonish.

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-zorbing-accident-father-ki... I think it's true that health and safety are treated very differently there. The craziest part of the attached link is the quote "it's gone in the wrong direction again ".

The KHL, Russia's top hockey league, is known for its cavalier treatment of injured--even dying--players:https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/paul-kariya...

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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> This just screams negligence to me. This is very much a default mode for ex-USSR countries, especially russia. While russian bureocracy is extremely procedural, it has nothing to do with efficiency or safety (most of the regulations and laws in post-soviet countries are written not to increase safety or utility for population, but for controlling power and money flows and benefeting someone on the top).

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No, there's something wrong with the people who go around this and don't say a thing because it's not even weird to them.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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It's Russia we're talking about. In Russia, the default mode of answering any complaint is "it's your own fault, we're not responsible, go away". It's not only on the big political scene - it's everywhere, from a village grocery store to a national federation. If you admit any mistake and any responsibility for anything, you're an idiot and a "loch" (pronounced the same as Scottish lake, but means a person to be take…

Come on, there is no way they are that cartoonish.

There isn't. Either they didn't read the linked article, or they are projecting their own spite - I have no other explanation of how one could interpret really like that.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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This is appalling. There is no world in which an industrial robot like that should be operating next to a child. Their force sensors are not nearly sensitive enough to stop before causing serious injury. Going fast enough, they can absolutely kill you. This just screams negligence to me. Cannot believe they tried to blame it on the child. There are robots, called Cobots, designed specifically for this type of environ…

> This just screams negligence to me. This is very much a default mode for ex-USSR countries, especially russia. While russian bureocracy is extremely procedural, it has nothing to do with efficiency or safety (most of the regulations and laws in post-soviet countries are written not to increase safety or utility for population, but for controlling power and money flows and benefeting someone on the top).

Let’s keep this generalisation to specific countries as this is not true for Baltic countries at all.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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> Your lack of empathy borders on sociopathy.

I broke a bone at school - I have lots of empathy. It is very painful.

Not international news, and nobody apologised to me. At the end of the day it wasn't a big deal.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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It's Russia we're talking about. In Russia, the default mode of answering any complaint is "it's your own fault, we're not responsible, go away". It's not only on the big political scene - it's everywhere, from a village grocery store to a national federation. If you admit any mistake and any responsibility for anything, you're an idiot and a "loch" (pronounced the same as Scottish lake, but means a person to be take…

This is a fine exhibit in the museum of Russophobia.

You meant russorealism ;-)

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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It's not cartoonish, it's the culture. Of course it's not homogenous - you can find a lot of people that go against the mainstream. In a hyper-macho culture you can find males who are shy and sensitive, in an introverted culture valuing privacy and closeness you can find people who are extroverted and exuberant, in a culture where accepting blame is not encouraged you can find a lot of people that will readily do tha…

Dude, you are just projecting your spite. This would be laughable if I didn't know you were serious. So it's actually just scary how how you make things up.

>Dude, you are just projecting your spite. This would be laughable if I didn't know you were serious. So it's actually just scary how how you make things up.

I lived in Russia for the first 27 years of my life (but I've been out for 11 years). The claimed phenomena definitely existed and was widespread back then. I was an odd duck by being ready to openly accept my mistakes / misdoings, and I was not alone, but that was not common.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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I was mostly being facetious, I have done my research. I don’t really expect many legitimately good answers (although I’ll keep an open mind). I’m still waiting for those GPT-3 and deep fake horror stories we were warned about to come to reality. Maybe ML needs more script kiddy frameworks like KaliOS for these tools before the justifications to slow down R&D will finally be justified?

> I’m still waiting for those GPT-3 and deep fake horror stories we were warned about to come to reality. I'm a bit confused. There's plenty of propaganda written by ML. Here's some deep fakes with respect to Ukraine[0][1]. Manufacturing robots kill people all the time[2][3]. They are weaponizing ML. Like specifically GPT-3? Probably not but people do use these to write tweets and short form things. [0] https://news.…

> Manufacturing robots kill people all the time[2][3].

Your techrepublic article discredits your statement:

> While any death is a tragedy, it also must be put into perspective. Humans and robots have been working together in the manufacturing industry for decades with few grievous problems. According to a 2014 New York Times report, citing OSHA, at the time robots had been responsible for 33 workplace deaths over the past 30 years. According to the National Association of Manufacturing, there are 12.3 million manufacturing workers in the US, who account for roughly 9% of the country’s workforce.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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This is a fine exhibit in the museum of Russophobia.

You meant russorealism ;-)

I don't think so. We have our share of shitty people just like any other nations.

Misrepresenting them as something that is innate to Russia is just hate speech or propaganda.

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