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A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by lupire »

charcircuit wrote: post #80
carbadtraingood wrote: post #14

The answer from the federation is unconscionable. They blamed the boy and then said they could not be held responsible. Fuck off, a kid made a reasonable kid movement. If the robot wasn't ready to be around children, it shouldn't have been deployed around children. And there should have been a big red button that immediately everything, within reach of every player.

>a kid made a reasonable kid movement What do you mean? There's no reasonable time where you and your opponent are touching the pieces at the same time. Nor is there a reasonable time where you reach for the same piece.

The penalty for an illegal move is maybe forfeit, not a broken finger.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by causality0 »

krallja wrote: post #82
charcircuit wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>a kid made a reasonable kid movement What do you mean? There's no reasonable time where you and your opponent are touching the pieces at the same time. Nor is there a reasonable time where you reach for the same piece.

Seven-year-old boys are known for always doing things that are reasonable, and never doing anything unreasonable.

He's "one of the top 30 chess players under nine in Moscow". Still the robot's fault, though.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by userbinator »

carbadtraingood wrote: post #14

The answer from the federation is unconscionable. They blamed the boy and then said they could not be held responsible. Fuck off, a kid made a reasonable kid movement. If the robot wasn't ready to be around children, it shouldn't have been deployed around children. And there should have been a big red button that immediately everything, within reach of every player.

Are you really going to go for the "think of the children" argument...?

Although I do agree with you about having an e-stop.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by naniwaduni »

causality0 wrote: post #92
krallja wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seven-year-old boys are known for always doing things that are reasonable, and never doing anything unreasonable.

He's "one of the top 30 chess players under nine in Moscow". Still the robot's fault, though.

So you're saying he's already done at least one unreasonable thing...

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by jameshart »

kortilla wrote: post #34
twayt wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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>people sign a disclaimer about the risks, they can not be held responsible. This isn’t adequate in civilized countries. You can’t run an amusement park that severs the limbs of 1% of the participants under the protection of a disclaimer.

There is a threshold where it’s acceptable though.

For example: the general rate of skiing injuries is about 1 injury per thousand skier days. Ski resorts will sell a day pass to let you experience that 0.1% injury risk as Long as you sign a disclaimer.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

#96

Post by birdyrooster »

smsm42 wrote: post #90

It's Russia we're talking about. In Russia, the default mode of answering any complaint is "it's your own fault, we're not responsible, go away". It's not only on the big political scene - it's everywhere, from a village grocery store to a national federation. If you admit any mistake and any responsibility for anything, you're an idiot and a "loch" (pronounced the same as Scottish lake, but means a person to be take…

Come on, there is no way they are that cartoonish.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by rrdharan »

birdyrooster wrote: post #96
smsm42 wrote: post #90

It's Russia we're talking about. In Russia, the default mode of answering any complaint is "it's your own fault, we're not responsible, go away". It's not only on the big political scene - it's everywhere, from a village grocery store to a national federation. If you admit any mistake and any responsibility for anything, you're an idiot and a "loch" (pronounced the same as Scottish lake, but means a person to be take…

Come on, there is no way they are that cartoonish.

If you consider how Chernobyl was handled it doesn’t seem that far off?

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by markdown »

birdyrooster wrote: post #96
smsm42 wrote: post #90

It's Russia we're talking about. In Russia, the default mode of answering any complaint is "it's your own fault, we're not responsible, go away". It's not only on the big political scene - it's everywhere, from a village grocery store to a national federation. If you admit any mistake and any responsibility for anything, you're an idiot and a "loch" (pronounced the same as Scottish lake, but means a person to be take…

Come on, there is no way they are that cartoonish.

They're not. It's a massive country with many different races and cultures in it. Painting them all with one brush isn't very nice.
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