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Seven-year-old boys are known for always doing things that are reasonable, and never doing anything unreasonable.
I agree especially since he "is among the top 30 chess players in Moscow under the age of nine."
A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent
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Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent
#142The answer from the federation is unconscionable. They blamed the boy and then said they could not be held responsible. Fuck off, a kid made a reasonable kid movement. If the robot wasn't ready to be around children, it shouldn't have been deployed around children. And there should have been a big red button that immediately everything, within reach of every player.
Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent
#143I have so many questions. 1.) What organizer/parent in their right mind thought that this was a good idea. Never place humans within the reach of industrial robots. He's lucky to have only broken a finger. 2.) Why make a robot pick up the pieces? Handling movement of chess pieces by a computer has been done safely since the early 1980's by Milton Bradley. 3.) Was the boy actually playing against a computer player? If…
> What organizer/parent in their right mind thought that this was a good idea. Never place humans within the reach of industrial robots. Would you scold Japanese the same if they "placed human within the reach of industrial robots"? Oops, they actually did that: > A robot arm (L), developed by Japanese auto parts maker Denso and operated by computer game software YaneuraOu, plays against professional shogi, or Japane…
Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent
#144It's Russia we're talking about. In Russia, the default mode of answering any complaint is "it's your own fault, we're not responsible, go away". It's not only on the big political scene - it's everywhere, from a village grocery store to a national federation. If you admit any mistake and any responsibility for anything, you're an idiot and a "loch" (pronounced the same as Scottish lake, but means a person to be take…
Come on, there is no way they are that cartoonish.
Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent
#145The answer from the federation is unconscionable. They blamed the boy and then said they could not be held responsible. Fuck off, a kid made a reasonable kid movement. If the robot wasn't ready to be around children, it shouldn't have been deployed around children. And there should have been a big red button that immediately everything, within reach of every player.
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Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, as someone that researches ML, this is my major concern. It isn't AGI that has the potential to kill us, it is current ML systems that can't handle OOD data and engineers put it in place because "that's the user's fault." Same reason we have Teslas crashing. AI safety might talk about AGI a lot, but their main area of research is modern systems and concerns over that. OOD data is really hard to deal with FW…
Are there any other major examples of modern ML ethical issues besides some Tesla cars killing their drivers? Are ML driven robots in factories killing people or Something? Because I haven’t heard of anything else. The only other modern AI ethics stuff I hear about is making image generators more politically correct and maybe some criminal sentencing algorithms that are being misused (which isn’t really an AI ethics…
Plenty of stories if you just Google a bit.
Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent
#147I have so many questions. 1.) What organizer/parent in their right mind thought that this was a good idea. Never place humans within the reach of industrial robots. He's lucky to have only broken a finger. 2.) Why make a robot pick up the pieces? Handling movement of chess pieces by a computer has been done safely since the early 1980's by Milton Bradley. 3.) Was the boy actually playing against a computer player? If…
> What organizer/parent in their right mind thought that this was a good idea. Never place humans within the reach of industrial robots. Would you scold Japanese the same if they "placed human within the reach of industrial robots"? Oops, they actually did that: > A robot arm (L), developed by Japanese auto parts maker Denso and operated by computer game software YaneuraOu, plays against professional shogi, or Japane…
Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What organizer/parent in their right mind thought that this was a good idea. Never place humans within the reach of industrial robots. Would you scold Japanese the same if they "placed human within the reach of industrial robots"? Oops, they actually did that: > A robot arm (L), developed by Japanese auto parts maker Denso and operated by computer game software YaneuraOu, plays against professional shogi, or Japane…
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Japanese: smart guys
Ivans: stupid fucks
Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent
#149There are robots, called Cobots, designed specifically for this type of environment. They are highly specialized and extremely sensitive to unpredicted forces. Even then, you'd likely have a light curtain to stop the motion when anything crossed over into the table.
Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, as someone that researches ML, this is my major concern. It isn't AGI that has the potential to kill us, it is current ML systems that can't handle OOD data and engineers put it in place because "that's the user's fault." Same reason we have Teslas crashing. AI safety might talk about AGI a lot, but their main area of research is modern systems and concerns over that. OOD data is really hard to deal with FW…
By OOD, do you mean Out Of Domain?