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Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Post by pessimizer » Sat, Jul 02, 2022, 1:07 AM UTC

nonrandomstring wrote: post #59

codegeek wrote: post #24

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I agree with you but honestly if it was another person named Toyota who purchased toyota.com, they would definitely be pursued/sued by Toyota as well. Large Corporations are powerful and will do everything they can to get what they want. It just happens to be Nissan in this case. So I wouldn't treat them any different than the others to be honest.

> Large Corporations are powerful and will do everything they can to get what they want. In the scheme of ethical philosophy there is, pretty much by definition, the most extreme position of "might is right". The principle text on which is attributed to one "Ragnar Redbeard" [1]. The philosophy is simple. I may rob you, rape you, vandalise, ransack, lie, pillage and kill, for the one simple reason that I am stronger…

> The philosophy is simple. I may rob you, rape you, vandalise, ransack, lie, pillage and kill, for the one simple reason that I am stronger and you are the weaker. And the "rule of law" (insofar as it can exist) must recognise that as my legitimate right. It is obviously an infantile fantasy. Yet I see it echoed in various forms within these pages.

No, it's an observation that's almost tautological; if you can't do what you want, you're not mighty.

If you require reality to conform to your innate sense of justice, you'll distort your perceptions of the world and react to things ineffectively.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Post by pessimizer » Sat, Jul 02, 2022, 1:08 AM UTC

exceptione wrote: post #160

user_named wrote: post #149

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No. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria.

This is low effort, and misguided. They are specifically not instances of might makes right. Perhaps you have been reading some Kremlin troll factory created and amplified content, that could take root in an already suspicious ground.

Of course it's low effort. I can't imagine the effort it takes to deny it.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Post by pessimizer » Sat, Jul 02, 2022, 1:11 AM UTC

andrekandre wrote: post #137

adventured wrote: post #101

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Democracy isn't the enemy of might makes right at all. In actual democratic systems, the stronger great majority (eg the 75% or 90%) can do anything they want to with a weak minority. There are many prominent examples of democratic systems being used to implement might makes right via majority abuse of the minority. You have to intentionally neuter democratic systems with strict constitutions that protect individual…

> You have to put very strong constraints in place to prevent the stronger majority from harming the weaker minority; you have to put the democratic majority in a straight-jacket that limits their possible actions for the protection of the minority. in a democracy aren't all voices (votes) equal? if i have more money and power than you, at the ballot it doesn't matter, you and your weaker friends can overrule me no m…

If I have more money and power than you, your weaker friends will do what I say or starve, but that's beside the point.

The point is that if your country is 51% Catholic and votes to exterminate the 49% of Protestants, that's democracy.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Post by boston_clone » Sat, Jul 02, 2022, 1:17 AM UTC

all2 wrote: post #169

boston_clone wrote: post #167

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Thank you for both sidestepping the claims related to Gab and then directly misquoting the article! To clear up the reading comprehension bit, the article states: "Not one time is the word "god" mentioned in our founding document." I don't know where that 'f' snuck in, but that statement is referencing the Constitution. Further, the First Amendment - particularly the Free Exercise and Establishment clauses - perfectl…

Ah, better... > Thank you for both sidestepping the claims related to Gab I need not reply to generalizations and libel about my character. > Further, the First Amendment - particularly the Free Exercise and Establishment clauses - perfectly counters your notion of Christianity being embedded into this nation's founding. No, it doesn't. It clearly enunciates an individual's right to choose. The ability to choose is,…

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Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Post by InefficientRed » Sat, Jul 02, 2022, 1:24 AM UTC

all2 wrote: post #151

InefficientRed wrote: post #122

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I can't tell if this is unhinged xenophobia or satire. In case of the former: the crusades, any of the millions of athiest or non-christian pacifists, and... I can't believe this needs stating, but shooting someone in the face with an assault rifle is an exercise of "might".

And shooting someone who is trying to kill you or your family is an exercise in individual sovereignty. The point is self defense in the face of people who would dominate you, tell you to do things you don't want to do or know are not morally right.

"Shoot people who tell you to do stuff you don't want to do" is the superior Christian alternative to might makes right... strongly suspect trolling.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Post by cat_plus_plus » Sat, Jul 02, 2022, 1:45 AM UTC

ohashi wrote: post #155

mikece wrote: post #3

Uzi battled Nissan motor company because the company thought they had the right to take the domain from a man who had registered it because it's his surname. Nissan Motors should have been slapped with a massive punitive fine for that, but instead they continued to bleed Mr. Uzi Nissan of his resources by suing him repeatedly. Memo to Nissan Motor Company: it was because of this act of lawfare that I personally renou…

He wasn't as innocent as portrayed. The problem was he ran car related ads on his site: https://web.archive.org/web/19991122224115/http://nissan.com... If you look at his site, when it was a computer shop, fine. Then he started running ads (really trying to profit off nissan motor's brand) related to cars. Then he got taken to court. He played off like a victim forever. Did he have a legitimate reason to buy the doma…

Idiots who name their company "John" deserve what they get.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Post by adastra22 » Sat, Jul 02, 2022, 1:49 AM UTC

user_named wrote: post #130

exceptione wrote: post #77

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I am not sure why you are downvoted, because you are dead right. "Might makes right" is exactly the 'philosophy' of the dictators of both countries. Human rights and related concepts are for them nonsense and signs of the weak. The clash between Hitler and Stalin was a clash of two very like minded people. Some horrid people defend the massacring by Putin by defending the might makes right mindset. They even might th…

The US certainly believes in might makes right too.

While the US has its share of might-makes-right neofascists, like any country today, this is definitely not the guiding philosophy behind US foreign policy. The neocons who launched those pointless wars in the Middle East thought they were nation building—helping the populous get rid of petty tyrants and build democratic governments. The policy wanks behind the Vietnam and Korean wars thought they were saving the world from communism. That’s a different thing than Hitler/Stalin/Putin style might-makes-right Social Darwinism.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Post by adastra22 » Sat, Jul 02, 2022, 1:55 AM UTC

adventured wrote: post #108

adastra22 wrote: post #66

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It is something that Germany believed in the first half of the 20th century. It is something Russia believes now. It ain’t as dead as it ought to be.

Most of Europe believed might makes right until post WW2. Hell, Spain was still a dictatorship until 1975 and a large part of Eastern Europe was still de facto enslaved until the fall of the USSR. Even now you've got a looming dictatorship in Hungary, a dictatorship in Belarus, a dictatorship in Russia, and a dictatorship in Turkey (a quasi European state). Germany's evil ideology of conquest and might makes right, w…

Just to be clear, a dictatorship isn’t necessarily might-makes-right. Actual might-makes-right philosophy is so much worse than just having a thug in power. It’s the difference between Hitler and the Saudis.

Both are bad, but might-makes-right culture of imperialism is waaay worse in its downstream effects. E.g. the Holocaust and Japanese war crimes in China.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Post by the_only_law » Sat, Jul 02, 2022, 1:58 AM UTC

all2 wrote: post #153

boston_clone wrote: post #126

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Considering their history of using Gab, you can safely assume the former. Their complete misunderstanding of the history of both this country's founding and Christianity really help cement that assumption as accurate, though. It's unfortunate to see that the US education system has regressed so poorly.

This is ad hominem. Ignoring that, I'd like to know exactly what I misunderstand about my country's founding and what I misunderstand about Christianity? If my understanding is inaccurate, I welcome correction.

Probably assertions like:

> The appeal to "something better" than our base instinct to crush our enemies and hear the lamentations of their women is distinct to Christian morality. No other religion or political ideology makes this appeal.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Post by eyelidlessness » Sat, Jul 02, 2022, 2:48 AM UTC

ncmncm wrote: post #135

user_named wrote: post #130

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The US certainly believes in might makes right too.

The US has always fostered a strong undercurrent of fascist attitude toward the outside world, and toward its underclass.

And if there’s anyone wondering if this is hyperbolic… don’t take anyone’s word for it here on HN, the nazis were quite clear that they took inspiration from the US.