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Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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It resolves and loads a page for me, it has just been... updated. Wonder if his next of kin will be selling it.

The company will get it eventually. That's the thing about corporations: they outlive people. It took Disney 79 years and the trade of a sportscaster's career to get Oswald the Lucky Rabbit back, but they did it.

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Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Hear hear. A much better worded explanation than my soul would allow. I’m dumbfounded when the observation is made. On the one hand, if it’s just common sense that large corporations will do what they want to anyone at any time, isn’t our need to fight them on it similarly common? The second part is always left out. Probably rarely on purpose, but always to the benefit of the aggressor.

> if it’s just common sense that large corporations will do what they want to anyone at any time, isn’t our need to fight them on it similarly common? Of course and "we" do fight them as a matter of routine, and "we" win frequently too. If that weren't the case, the EPA wouldn't exist, OSHA wouldn't exist, the FDA wouldn't exist, the FAA wouldn't exist, the 40 hour work week wouldn't exist, automobiles wouldn't have…

The few wins we managed to secure decades ago pale in comparisons to the thousands of legislative and judicial victories corporations have won and continue to win since. Even your EPA example was just whittled down by the Supreme Court

It’s not comparable, we rarely win. I’m not sure why you surround “we” in quotes, because the people benefiting from this arrangement represent an extremely small number and it’s unlikely you’re among them.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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My brother owns (our last name.com). Our great great grandfather started and ran a fairly successful (pre-prohibition) brewery. Someone found out about our last name, trademarked it, and "restarted" the brewery with no relation to anyone in our family. The best part is they feigned ignorance when they "learned" that there were still living descendants in the area...

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Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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I am not sure why you are downvoted, because you are dead right. "Might makes right" is exactly the 'philosophy' of the dictators of both countries. Human rights and related concepts are for them nonsense and signs of the weak. The clash between Hitler and Stalin was a clash of two very like minded people. Some horrid people defend the massacring by Putin by defending the might makes right mindset. They even might th…

The US certainly believes in might makes right too.

The US has always fostered a strong undercurrent of fascist attitude toward the outside world, and toward its underclass.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Democracy is the enemy of the might makes right. Might makes right selects the stronger clan, and selects its strongest leader: that is, the one who follows this doctrine the most brutally and successfully. Because if you don´t, someone else will be more ruthless. So in a democracy we protect minority interests and curb the powers of commercial entities. And we have the Trias Politica. You might wonder if we do enoug…

Democracy isn't the enemy of might makes right at all. In actual democratic systems, the stronger great majority (eg the 75% or 90%) can do anything they want to with a weak minority. There are many prominent examples of democratic systems being used to implement might makes right via majority abuse of the minority. You have to intentionally neuter democratic systems with strict constitutions that protect individual…

  > You have to put very strong constraints in place to prevent the stronger majority from harming the weaker minority; you have to put the democratic majority in a straight-jacket that limits their possible actions for the protection of the minority.
in a democracy aren't all voices (votes) equal?

if i have more money and power than you, at the ballot it doesn't matter, you and your weaker friends can overrule me no matter how much money i had

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Democracy isn't the enemy of might makes right at all. In actual democratic systems, the stronger great majority (eg the 75% or 90%) can do anything they want to with a weak minority. There are many prominent examples of democratic systems being used to implement might makes right via majority abuse of the minority. You have to intentionally neuter democratic systems with strict constitutions that protect individual…

I don´t agree with your wording. You sound like that especially in a democracy the minorities get crushed. But its the democracies that build upon the core idea of alienable human rights, that gives you voting power but also guarantees as an individual. It is no wonder that you will find such constitutions in democracies. Thats why I said trias politica. I encourage you to think critically and at the same time ask yo…

The notion of inalienable human rights is, specifically, opposed to democracy. Democracy needs to be subordinated to that more fundamental principle.

They are often associated only because places where democracy is strong also tend to acknowledge human rights, at least in the abstract. (Obviously autocrats will not acknowledge it.) But it was, and is, often not so. Ask any Jim Crow victim. Or widow of a police violence victim.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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I agree with you but honestly if it was another person named Toyota who purchased toyota.com, they would definitely be pursued/sued by Toyota as well. Large Corporations are powerful and will do everything they can to get what they want. It just happens to be Nissan in this case. So I wouldn't treat them any different than the others to be honest.

In Germany Nissan Motors would have got the domain. According to german law "A private person with that name had priority over someone not called that. A company of that name, or a company with a registered trademark has precedence over a person of that name. A city or municipality has the highest precedence"

It's easy to forget that the com in .com is a shortening 'commercial' - i.e. a commercial enterprise. In Australia, (until relatively recently I think), a .com.au domain was restricted to registered businesses. For individuals, there is (was?) an id.au domain.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

#140
Uzi was my ISP when I had ADSL in Raleigh and was a pleasure to work with when I had issues with BellSouth's service. I was sorry to hear about his death.

The website was up just the other month, so this is a new development by his family/heirs.

That Nissan Motors didn't immediately grab the domain after his passing may be evidence that domain names are an inheritable asset? Any lawyers have info on this?

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