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Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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excuse me for interpreting "I just wish that we would take measures" as promoting regulation edit to reply to below: California already has accurate labeling and is being called out as a problem

I assumed that they were talking about regulations requiring accurate labelling of THC and CBD concentrations.

Yes, that is what I meant

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I wonder how alcohol would look of people were so incompetent that they would drink vodka by the pint, like beer! Seriously, if you smoke a joint of high-grade then you're doing it wrong.

Um, seriously, I like smoking joints, but I can't because the shit around these days is so sticky and potent. It's as if the only thing available is vodka, but I'd like a beer. Drinking less vodka doesn't make it a beer. They're completely different things.

Yes, that is exactly my problem. I enjoy the smoking process.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Strongly agree. As the THC percentage has increased, so has my anxiety when I smoke it. If I go out of my way to find lower quality weed, I enjoy it much more.

I live in a state where marijuana is legal and recently tried it again for the first time in over a decade. I strolled into a recreational store and asked for a recommendation, specifically requesting a flower with a low THC concentration. They ended up giving me something ("Biker Kush") that had 28% THC, which I had only noticed on the packaging after I left the store. Gee, thanks. Anyway, then I bought supplies to…

Your exact experience is similar to mine. I also worried that I broke my mind and would now suffer from psychosis. Turns out, I had just consumed incredibly potent weed, like you did.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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That's pretty unfortunate, sorry that happened. I smoke flower relatively often (far less than many), twice a week for the last 3 years (date nights with my wife) and have never experienced anything like that. I have on occasion gotten into a negative thought spiral where I start to obsess on some of my perceived poor choices in life but those generally last less than 20 minutes. Generally I start to worry that I don…

Thank you for the suggestions! If I do try again, I will definitely try a flower with the lowest THC concentration available. I certainly don't want to go above 15% after the recent experience. I was reading that THC concentrations in the sixties were around 3%, but I can't find any products at my local dispensary with concentrations less than 14% (!). I'm also considering dividing edibles into very small proportions…

Here is my tip: Search for CBD „only“ flowers. They will often have THC concentrations from 0.5 to 3 %

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It's crazy we are still having these kind of debates in Europe. 20 years ago most youth around 18/20 thought Cannabis would have already been legalised by now, I don't believe one second that any of the European elected official under 50 never smoked pot. The only possible explanation I see is heavy lobbying from big pharma groups or wine interests.

> 20 years ago most youth around 18/20 thought Cannabis would have already been legalised by now

I was completely sober 20 years ago and never thought that.

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I'm not even sure where I can buy low-potency stuff. Looking online, the lowest at the dispensary where I bought the first thing is around 14%. Sixties THC concentrations were reported to be around 3%. What I'd really like to do is to try 1%, increase to 2%, etc., until I find something that works for me. Yeah, I know thirty minutes is too long between hits, but I was trying to be as conservative as possible about it…

If you do try it again, then go for a park/forest with less people.

No. Starters should stay inside their own home where they feel safe and comfortable

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I think the legalization of cannabis in Europe has a lot of potential. I just wish that we would take measures to avoid the ever increasing levels of THC dosage in weed to insane levels, like you see in the US or California specifically. I firmly believe that cannabis can do a lot of good, but the poison is in the dosage. It has been shown in the past that increasing THC while decreasing CBD leads to an increase in n…

>[1]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6312155/ This is an opinion piece written by a Psychiatrist. Hardly conclusive or convincing. Also focuses on teen use so not sure it has much relevance for the vast majority of users in Legal jurisdictions.

In retrospect yea, my source is bad. There are certainly better ones forming the same conclusion.

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This sounds like the confusing US laws. Cannabis is illegal ( very illegal) nationally. But several states decided to stop prosecuting these crimes, and the states do most of the policing in the US - so it’s all but legal in many states. I wish there was a legal standard whereby if the state stops prosecuting a law, the law automatically can be invalidated by a court. We have lots of things that are illegal that are…

> the law automatically can be invalidated by a court. There are three parts to the law: 1. The legislature must draft the law 2. The executives must enforce the law. 3. The judicial must punish for breaking the law. If (2) never happens, then it never gets to (3). And courts can "invalidate" a law: jury nullification.

Hahaha... oh man!

If you want to get kicked right off a jury start talking about nullification. Waiting in my jury pool to be called/dismissed one of the prospective jurors started handing out FIJA (Fully Informed Jury Amendment) flyers to anyone who was interested before we went into the courtroom.

http://www.ibiblio.org/fija/fijaintr.htm

The bailiff called him forcibly into the judges quarters and everyone he had spoken to was sent home.

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€10 a gramme of bud.... I don't know about prices in Germany but I can tell you that a lot of the market in Canada would go illegal if taxes were that high here. That is more in taxes than the cost of high quality legal pot in ON/QC.

Street price is 13 in berlin

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You can still find lower THC cannabis at any dispensary. Most carry from 10 to 30%. Most also carry CBD flower and very low dose edibles. I also don’t understand this argument because you can just take 1 hit and be done. No one is forcing you to finish a whole joint. Should liquor be outlawed because it is stronger than beer?

According to the link in the post you’re replying to, it wasn’t all that long ago that it was 2%. 10% is still significantly higher. And for what it’s worth, you can’t get Everclear in my state.

CBD flower is usually around 2 or 3 percent and is widely available
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