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Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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That's great, a sliver of more freedom in the world - and long overdue. Hopefully this will allow the police to do something about crime which is becoming a huge issue in Europe (probably thanks to lockdowns, recession, uncontrolled immigration). I hope it catches on everywhere else but I'm definitely not going to buy their overpriced and overtaxed products - I'll just buy seeds and grow it for personal use.

Why would lockdowns encourage crime?

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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> Canada has made some progress since legalisation in 2018, but through a regionally varied patchwork of free-market and state-controlled supply systems that makes it hard to draw broad lessons

This strikes me as an odd claim. Each province has its own approach, and the provinces are large. Wouldn’t having varying approaches among different large regions be perfect for drawing lessons?

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Wording: Germany will not legalise Cannabis. Maybe it will be decriminalized, but there is basically no chance of legalisation (too complex/expensive of a process). I have no reason to trust the SPD that they will deliver on this, they are the infamous poster child for betrayal. They are the kind of party that would sell their entire voting base if it served the acting politicians individual careers. If they will do…

Agreed on the idiocy of the SPD ("wer hat uns verraten? Sozialdemokraten")... but this time, the Justice Ministry belongs to the FDP. They have alienated an awful lot of voters with their effective denial of reasonable covid measures, they'd be completely done for if they would not manage to get cannabis legal-ish enough that people can buy cannabis products in stores and smoke on the streets without fearing arrest.

We have elections in Bavaria and Hessen in 2023, the FDP will need at least something to show off, and cannabis is the easiest thing to pass, particularly as the Greens and parts of the SPD have long fought for it.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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post #22

> Canada has made some progress since legalisation in 2018, but through a regionally varied patchwork of free-market and state-controlled supply systems that makes it hard to draw broad lessons This strikes me as an odd claim. Each province has its own approach, and the provinces are large. Wouldn’t having varying approaches among different large regions be perfect for drawing lessons?

Not with respect to the country as a whole. 'broad' is the key term in the sentence you quoted.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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I hope they eventually do this in the UK. Weed is basically not illegal if you’re relatively well off and white. I’ve seen a number of cops just take the weed away from a rich uni student or similar and bin it with no further action taken, but if you’re not, criminal charges await. Making it decriminalised would solve that disparity of treatment.

This has been true for a while - in the 1990s when effective decriminalisation wasn't on the cards, I knew the son of a judge who was caught in the middle of Edinburgh with a shopping trolley full of cannabis plants. He got arrested, but didn't get anything worse than a slap on the wrist.

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I think the legalization of cannabis in Europe has a lot of potential. I just wish that we would take measures to avoid the ever increasing levels of THC dosage in weed to insane levels, like you see in the US or California specifically. I firmly believe that cannabis can do a lot of good, but the poison is in the dosage. It has been shown in the past that increasing THC while decreasing CBD leads to an increase in n…

Do weed shops in legal states not have "light" options? Seems weird if they didn't, but I guess that might be a side effect of recent legalization. That the heavy stuff sells better to consumers who used to take whatever they could find back in the black market days.

Anyways, I'm asking because I unfortunately live in a state where it's still illegal.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strongly agree. As the THC percentage has increased, so has my anxiety when I smoke it. If I go out of my way to find lower quality weed, I enjoy it much more.

Hopefully the canabis producers will see the low (by todays standards) THC level weed as having its own niche and market it accordingly. Like 'light beer'.

I wonder how alcohol would look of people were so incompetent that they would drink vodka by the pint, like beer!

Seriously, if you smoke a joint of high-grade then you're doing it wrong.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Wording: Germany will not legalise Cannabis. Maybe it will be decriminalized, but there is basically no chance of legalisation (too complex/expensive of a process). I have no reason to trust the SPD that they will deliver on this, they are the infamous poster child for betrayal. They are the kind of party that would sell their entire voting base if it served the acting politicians individual careers. If they will do…

Yes, but... Basically other parties aren't that different. In the end it doesn't matter which color of the rainbow, or black, is going to fuck the people.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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While I have no interest in weed, I never understood why people are against it, since cigarettes are also a drug and are far more damaging to heath and the economy, and in the US kills a couple hundred thousand folks a year, or alcohol, which is a drug, and kills tens of thousands of people a year. Eliminating illegality would save in so many ways, and taxes could help offset other taxes. But no, weed is somehow more terrible...

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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I hope they eventually do this in the UK. Weed is basically not illegal if you’re relatively well off and white. I’ve seen a number of cops just take the weed away from a rich uni student or similar and bin it with no further action taken, but if you’re not, criminal charges await. Making it decriminalised would solve that disparity of treatment.

I really hope so as well. Black market weed in UK sucks. I've moved here recently and all the stuff I was able to get was dry deodorized skunk grown on chemicals - really sad state. It stinks a mile away, it's not fresh, you literally can feel there's something added to it that shouldn't be there. I stopped using cannabis completely at this point.
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