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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by distortedsignal »

deelowe wrote: post #252
guggleet wrote: post #118

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Dunno, I have used both since I was like 13. Also, we used to weld and do all sorts of things (acetylene torching, lathe, casting, grinding, sawing, milling) mostly unsupervised with very little instruction in middle/high school metal shop. I don't remember any accidents.

Aren't lathes extremely dangerous?

The college that I went to had all the engineers learn how to run a metal-turning lathe. ME, EE, BME, I think even the Computer Engineers had to learn how to run a lathe. They put us through a safety class first, which mostly consisted of how not to run a lathe (no loose clothes, no long hair, no jewelry below the elbow, no necklaces, etc). The only injury that I know from that class was from when we learned how to run welders - one of the guys caught his shirt on fire with an oxy-acetalene torch.

Yeah, lathes are dangerous, but no more or less dangerous than a lot of other things in the world. Cars are dangerous. Turning on a light switch in the wrong context can be dangerous. If you approach this stuff with the proper respect and caution, you should be fine.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by logifail »

t_mann wrote: post #483
logifail wrote: post #468

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> Tom Cruise is a really bad example, because he actually does have a pilot license since 1994 and is allowed to fly some jets Some jet ... but not the jets in the movie! So what's the point in getting a Navy pilot to watch him "flying" them? Apart from - of course - being able to make clickbaity videos showing their "reactions". > perspective how (un)-realistic those movies are Erm, why? Movies are movies. There's l…

> So what's the point in getting a Navy pilot to watch him "flying" them? They don't comment on his flying but on other aspects, like the training scenes, mission tactics, and also on the flying (by professionals) that is depicted. > Erm, why? Movies are movies. You might feel that way, but even then you'll have to admit that a lot of people don't make that distinction to that extent (especially kids) - so they'll en…

> How would I know what's realistic and what's not (in areas so far outside of what I do) if I didn't rely on people with this knowledge?

If it's realism you're after, how about listening to a professional talking about their profession? Why bring Hollywood into it?

Watching a clickbaity-titled video of a professional "reacting" to a movie just seems ridiculous. It's all done for the clicks.

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

logifail wrote: post #21
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

You can buy reusable toaster bags that make this possible.

All sorts of crumbly, melty things can go in a standard upright toaster.

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Post by elif »

cuteboy19 wrote: post #422
philistine wrote: post #94

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Also, it's not electronic safety, its straight up electrical safety. There are no electronics in a magnetron.

Even with power electronics we still say electrical safety

It was a class on embedded electronics and robotics. There are more hazards in electronics than merely electrical hazards. e.g. exploding capacitors, toxic fumes, etc.

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Post by 83 »

hamburglar wrote: post #434
hamburglar wrote: post #353

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… where the glue gun has orders of magnitude more power and speed and the “use electrical resistance to create heat” portion of the show necessarily happens OUTSIDE the housing. It’s a cute comparison but a MIG welder is a lot more dangerous than a glue gun.

I’m also gonna pick a nit here and say “like a hot glue gun” is what you say about a MIG weld that is done entirely improperly. If the filler material is just acting like glue, you might be sticking metal together but you’re not welding. So this tongue-in-cheek description also misleads newbs into creating bad welds.

That is picking a nit. Bad welds are still welds, you just need more of them :p

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Post by jasonwatkinspdx »

conductr wrote: post #301
ip26 wrote: post #262

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It's a fun idea, but I must say I have discovered quite by chance that an inexpensive toaster oven is the tool for this job - as well as countless other jobs. Not just toasting bruschetta - it's secretly a $60 patio oven, opening the door to things like baking fish mid-July without heating or smelling up the house.

This is my take. Mid 40s and I’ve never owned a toaster in my adult life, but the toaster oven gets frequent use. However I don’t make plain toast ever. I suppose if I did, especially in the AM, I’d see the appeal.

Never owned a toaster. If I want toast I just do it in a pan. It surprises me how many people don't realize you can just use a pan.

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Post by 83 »

meigwilym wrote: post #408
lotsofpulp wrote: post #169

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It would never even occur to me to watch a video on finding my AirPods case. Either there is an article or forum post for it, or I need to post a question on a forum, but no way am I sifting through the garbage that is YouTube.

I'm exactly the same as you, but my adolescent children all turn to TickTock or YT when searching for an answer. They can't google for shit, unfortunately. My fault probably, but as I managed to learn all of this on my own, I expected them to do the same.

to be fair I can't google for shit anymore either. Try to find an actual review or more information about an item and the first 90 results are SEO spam and places selling said item.

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

throwaway9870 wrote: post #62
elif wrote: post #2

It's terrible how little basic electronic safety is practiced in virtually all of these videos. When we handled high amps in university, we had 3 hours of lecture first simply explaining safety precautions and how to handle accidents. Not to mention, the burnt wood looks so gaudy and uninteresting. I would hardly call it fractal as it only goes 2-3 levels usually, and artistically doesn't usually make sense on furnit…

It probably should have been more than 3 hours given that you likely mean "voltage" not "amps". Before everyone jumps on me, "it is the amps that kill you, not voltage", I understand electricity quite well and in this context, saying something like "handling high amps in a university" is almost certainly not what was taught.

Yeah, usually when someone parrots the "it is the amps that kill you, not voltage" line, I have to remind them that the amps depends on the volts.

A car battery is capable of hundreds of amps, but if you touch the contacts with your hands, you won't feel a thing, because the voltage is too low to overcome your body's resistance.

I imagine if you wired the leads to your tongue, your tongue would probably explode though.

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Post by 411111111111111 »

stormbrew wrote: post #514
mmcdermott wrote: post #242

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A toaster oven, or even a conventional oven with a broiler setting.

Using a real oven for this is kind of a massive waste of energy. I got a smallish countertop convection oven and it's basically replaced nearly all uses I previously had for a small toaster oven and our proper mounted oven that takes 8 million years to preheat, along with a good chunk of microwave uses. The big one only gets used for really big stuff now, maybe once every few months at most.

Dunno man, mine takes less then 5 minutes to get to about 150°c. I never measured it but just activating it before I take a pizza from the freezer is enough time to get it fully preheated. It really depends on the quality of the oven i think. There isn't that much more Air to heat so the wasted energy is less then you'd intuitively expect. And regular sandwich irons take at least as much energy, because it's not an enclosed space, consequently bleeding a lot of energy into the room

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Post by hammock »

t_mann wrote: post #447
mulmen wrote: post #443

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Yeah I wondered if this was some kind of “traditional” construction with modern style. But water-based masonry seems like a suspect choice in a rainy climate. On the other hand I was wrong once back in the 90s. Thanks for the link.

Fyi, here's a probably legit traditional jungle building channel (that clearly inspired the ripoffs, down to the no talking, shirtless + shorts): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA

That guy (Primitive Technology) is the original. Then someone started a different channel making swimming pools and it really caught on
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