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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by conductr »

ip26 wrote: post #262
samizdis wrote: post #56

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At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

It's a fun idea, but I must say I have discovered quite by chance that an inexpensive toaster oven is the tool for this job - as well as countless other jobs. Not just toasting bruschetta - it's secretly a $60 patio oven, opening the door to things like baking fish mid-July without heating or smelling up the house.

This is my take. Mid 40s and I’ve never owned a toaster in my adult life, but the toaster oven gets frequent use. However I don’t make plain toast ever. I suppose if I did, especially in the AM, I’d see the appeal.

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Post by cupofpython »

t_mann wrote: post #258
cupofpython wrote: post #250

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>The salvaging actually helped the learning experience immensely - shows the kid that carelessness can have lasting consequences. If the kid was present for it. Otherwise, its very much just another "oopsie" they did that mom and dad clean up behind the scenes and they have no idea what the difference is between ruining a toaster and spilling a glass of milk. >We had to spend $X to get a new one now! I would never sa…

> I would never say this to my kids. So what would the learning experience consist of then? > If the kid was present for it. OP mentioned several hours of work + dry runs in the garden. Pretty hard to miss that, unless they're perpetually glued to their screens (which would be the bigger concern). PS: Also, unless you take your kid to a physical store, the new toaster will pop up even more magically than the cleaned…

the learning experience is that the toaster they were familiar with is gone because of what they did. very simple. I guess I am the only one here that doesnt want to fuck with toaster repair. they arent worth it. they can cause fires and give electrical shocks.

honestly, the last thing i want my kid to think in that situation is that it is okay for them to put their hands in the toaster. Which they might do if they see me do it while cleaning

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Post by jjoonathan »

deelowe wrote: post #252
guggleet wrote: post #118

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Dunno, I have used both since I was like 13. Also, we used to weld and do all sorts of things (acetylene torching, lathe, casting, grinding, sawing, milling) mostly unsupervised with very little instruction in middle/high school metal shop. I don't remember any accidents.

Aren't lathes extremely dangerous?

Not nearly as dangerous as the cars those kids were driving a year or two later.

It's deeply unfortunate that the parental attitude towards tools these days is never "learn to use it safely" but rather "Hide it away! Don't you dare let MY kid near filthy manual labor!"

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Post by Aunche »

subjectsigma wrote: post #226
pjc50 wrote: post #120

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What?

Videos of Biden (speeches, etc) were regularly seeing abysmal like/dislike ratios, esp on official news channels like CNN. Then suddenly YouTube removed dislikes because of "dislike bombs". There was some speculation they were specifically pressured by someone (Biden or the media) to remove dislikes so their ratings would stop being negatively affected. This is really silly because the theory assumes that A) Biden ca…

>Most likely it was because YouTube's own content (such as Rewind) was getting dislike bombed.

If Biden or CNN don't care about dislikes, why would YouTube? The most obvious explanation is that some data scientists noticed that removing dislikes tends to increase ad revenue or watch time.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

slowhand09 wrote: post #173
samizdis wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

But DOES IT MAKE FRACTAL PATTERNS ON THE TOAST?!?

If it doesn’t, all it takes is a microwave transformer. EASY!

Oh look, my channel now has 200k subs! Cool.

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Post by tablespoon »

hattmall wrote: post #139
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

What I don't understand is the posting of these videos on Facebook by seemingly fake accounts. I'm in a bunch of yard sale groups and random unrelated accounts are constantly posting these hack and engineering type videos that are like 20 seconds of 50 different useless things with no explanations or other information. There's no ads displayed, there's nothing being sold or promoted and no links or way to find out mo…

> Does anyone else experience this? How are they making money or why is this being done?

Could they be building an audience to exploit later? IIRC, that's the tactic the Russian Internet Research Agency used -- build an audience with memes and cat pictures, then pivot to political propaganda.

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Post by raldi »

dpratt wrote: post #299
raldi wrote: post #109

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Rather than admonishing everyone for wondering the obvious question, why not just explain your reasoning?

An analogy: while technically what kills you due to a fall is called “gravity”, that’s not the whole picture. In actuality, it’s the height you fall from, which allows gravity to build up enough velocity to kill you when the fall ends. Despite the fact that you’re experiencing the same gravitational acceleration from both, a one meter fall, while being potentially dangerous if you’re not prepared and allowed to land…

This seems like the opposite situation. Gravity doesn’t kill you from a fall (just like voltage doesn’t kill you from electricity). Gravity makes possible the sudden acceleration that kills you, which is analogous to the voltage-induced current.

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Post by sinsterizme »

queuebert wrote: post #290
logifail wrote: post #21

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> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

Did he learn it from YouTube or some other social media? If so, why is he on there unsupervised?

Do you remember being a kid? It's not feasible nor desirable to monitor your children 24/7

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Post by aaronmdjones »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #254
foobarian wrote: post #246

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Meh, for 120V or 220V worst can happen is you get a little shock or trip the breakers. I don't bother shutting off power to household circuits either. I heard from HV vets that one acquires a habit of keeping one hand in the back pocket when working on substations, industrial installations, and such. :-) Not sure where there would be 300V for light switches/fixtures though. Some bespoke factory setup?

The lights were using some higher voltage. The Operations Manager mentioned it to me, while the work was being done. Apparently, it's standard. Something like 320 volts (don't remember the exact number). I had not heard of it, beforehand.

230V AC is the RMS (root mean square) voltage; if you rectify it to DC, it comes out to 325V. Put another way, the /highest/ absolute potential difference between line and neutral in a 230VAC system is 325V.

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Post by effingwewt »

lancesells wrote: post #124
mrtksn wrote: post #90

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Sue the person who uploaded the video, as it happens with all the malicious activities with the real world. Sure, we can have tools to reduce risk - maybe there can be a warning under the video that the contents are disputed and some people claimed harm. If those people are lying the video uploader can sue them. Just because some people don't know how to behave and have delusions that nothing is real on the internet,…

> Just as with the real world, people need to develop the right habits to stay safe. Just as with the real world, you don't have a right to a broadcasting platform for anything you wish.

Of course you do, as long as it's not illegal.

People forget even TV had public access, which could get pretty ridiculous back in the day.

Your argument is old, tired, and nonsensical.

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