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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by JCharante »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #35

Imperfect moderation is inevitable at the massive scale of social media companies. YouTube receives an enormous quantity of video every day and it’s clearly impossible to have humans review all of it. If we humans did review every single minute of video, the subjective element of moderation would still lead to headlines like this where someone could identify instances of inconsistencies. Given that she re-uploaded th…

How hard is it to use manual review for videos that have at least a million views?

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by throwaway9870 »

elif wrote: post #2

It's terrible how little basic electronic safety is practiced in virtually all of these videos. When we handled high amps in university, we had 3 hours of lecture first simply explaining safety precautions and how to handle accidents. Not to mention, the burnt wood looks so gaudy and uninteresting. I would hardly call it fractal as it only goes 2-3 levels usually, and artistically doesn't usually make sense on furnit…

It probably should have been more than 3 hours given that you likely mean "voltage" not "amps".

Before everyone jumps on me, "it is the amps that kill you, not voltage", I understand electricity quite well and in this context, saying something like "handling high amps in a university" is almost certainly not what was taught.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by kzrdude »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #24
dazzawazza wrote: post #3

Big Clive has a good video on why this is dangerous and how to make it more safe. Note: not safe safe, just more safe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro

I like Big Clive (and Electroboom) because they know how to be safe, but do the stupid thing anyways (safely) to show how bad the ideas are.

I can't watch Electroboom because he always gives himself shocks in every video. Don't care that they are small or it's set up, I can't stand watching it, makes me ill. Seems to be interesting stories he's telling otherwise though, so it's a shame.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by thaumasiotes »

testesttest wrote: post #33
logifail wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

Ahhh, yea did that as a kid too. Although, I tipped it on its side. The trick was to make toast then microwave the cheese :) But seriously, my mom was furious. No YouTube required.

> The trick was to make toast then microwave the cheese

Just use a toaster oven. They're horizontal.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by cge »

exar0815 wrote: post #8

When I was young and stupid, I did this. Suddenly felt some tingling sensation in my fingers, threw the leads away and jumped back. Most certainly saved my life and drilled in my head how dangerous it is. Still get a sinking feeling in my stomach whenever I am at some switching station below the 380KV leads, remembering that day. Especially after knowing people who got into 120KV, and what happened to them... Electri…

>Electricity is dangerous. In every form. Period. Keep your fingers away from it when you don't know what you do

An additional problem here is that the risks are different in different forms. Here, it sounds like people are approaching the technique based on their experiences and assumptions about mains electricity, or even car batteries.

2 kV is high enough voltage that arcing is a risk. Things they'll assume are insulators and safe, or even usable as protection, may be conductive through dielectric breakdown: in the case of wood, that's the whole point of the technique. Even air won't necessarily be safe if they're handling things so closely, especially if it's humid, in which case they could get breakdown at well over 1 mm. Meanwhile, GFCI/RCD is useless, because of the transformer.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by richrichardsson »

I was considering searching for and reporting all "Fractal Wood Burning" videos.

But you need to be signed in to flag a video, and there's no way I'm polluting my viewing history (and thus what YT thinks I like) with such shit.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by danso »

> It is extraordinarily dangerous, and dozens of people have been killed following instructions contained in viral videos.

Thought this might be an exaggeration (classic “well I’ve never heard of this” brain), but here’s a case that happened just a few months ago:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna26109

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