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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by lttlrck »

nsxwolf wrote: post #215
samizdis wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

There's no electrocution risk with that?

No.

Also it's incredible difficult to touch the elements even if you wanted to: there is a mylar sheet covering them (and they are behind a cage...).

See:

https://assets.dualit.com/images/landscapehalf/50027-classic...

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by InitialLastName »

logifail wrote: post #21
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

> a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster

I'm not (currently) a parent, so this may be off base, but I am currently in the crunch part of the process so looking to learn:

Is there not a better opportunity for this to be a learning experience by making it a couple of hours of your kid's time to do that cleaning? I know my adult life has benefited from my parents' insistence that I clean up my own messes, and 12-year-olds are certainly capable of generating elbow grease.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by hamburglar »

Gordonjcp wrote: post #127
TrackerFF wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like their DIY / craft vids have moved from glue guns to angle grinders and (tack) welding lately. Anyone with even the smallest amount experience with either, know that these things are accidents bound to happen.

> and (tack) welding To be fair, Gasless MIG is basically a glue gun for grown-ups.

… where the glue gun has orders of magnitude more power and speed and the “use electrical resistance to create heat” portion of the show necessarily happens OUTSIDE the housing. It’s a cute comparison but a MIG welder is a lot more dangerous than a glue gun.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

rocqua wrote: post #264
fendy3002 wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No matter how many times I see someone changing computer parts while the power is still connected, if I'm doing it I always unplug the power then pressing the power button to ensure it's unpowered

The idea is also that pressing the power button will also help discharge some capacitors as the power-supply tries to supply power. Not sure to which degree this works to make things safer, but trying it won't hurt. (Note this will _not_ make a powersupply safe to open up)

Unlikely to have effect on a PC.

On a dumb device where the power button is part of the actual circuit, let’s say an old radio this will work.

On a PC, the power button isn’t hooked to anything but the chipset or some micro or an upstream circuit that tries to start a micro. Which means to have any effect, that processor needs to be executing code, or needs to have enough power to start the chipset itself. Both of these are unlikely to have any effect on CPU capacitors or caps in the power supply.

I’m fairly certain this is placebo at best on a modern PC.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by gruez »

Gigachad wrote: post #36
toxik wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I swear, the YouTube staff was just salty about the ratios on their cringe-fest Rewind videos.

It was probably turning corporations off the platform entirely since turning the likes off looked bad and leaving them on created risk.

But you could already disable likes/dislikes if you want

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by corrral »

CM30 wrote: post #32

YouTube's moderation is ridiculous, and it demonstrates the problem Google has in general. They don't like paying actual people to moderate their sites, and rely on automated systems and bots to do everything for them. So, if there's ever an issue (or you have a bunch of scammers mass reporting you because you debunk their 'work'), then YouTube/Google seems to think you're the problem instead of the scumbags. We need…

Youtube shouldn't exist. Video hosting and discovery should be separate, like they (largely) are with podcasts.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by traverseda »

schroeding wrote: post #251
samizdis wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

> There is no automatic pop-up function That's a bit too low tech for me, but otherwise looks like a solid device :D

Presumably it does turn off on it's own.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by bornfreddy »

blntechie wrote: post #108
civilized wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Waffle iron. It's a horizontal toaster and applies enough pressure to cook faster. Leaves cool marks. Just don't burn yourself! (Technically applies to the toaster as well though)

Horizontal sandwich toasters are the popular kind of toasters around my parts. It can make from plain toasts to fully stuffed sandwiches and are not that hard to clean either. I guess Americans will consider them more as a grill though.

Yup. And we put 2 slices of bread with some cheese in between into them all the time. Easy to clean too.

The only thing that seems weird to me is "uncooked bread" reference by GGP - did their 12year old put a dough in the toaster?

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by mcv »

pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

If YouTube leaves up the dangerous videos, but removes the videos warning of that danger, then they should definitely be held liable. This is literally the worst thing they can do. Doing nothing would be better.

Automated moderation is no excuse; they designed that moderation, and they did a really poor job of it if it leaves the dangerous videos alone but removed those warning of the danger.

It reminds me a bit of YouTube removing original content videos because of fraudulent copyright claims by Big Content, except this time people can actually die. YouTube needs to clean up its act and be held liable for this stuff.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by hedora »

throwaway9870 wrote: post #62
elif wrote: post #2

It's terrible how little basic electronic safety is practiced in virtually all of these videos. When we handled high amps in university, we had 3 hours of lecture first simply explaining safety precautions and how to handle accidents. Not to mention, the burnt wood looks so gaudy and uninteresting. I would hardly call it fractal as it only goes 2-3 levels usually, and artistically doesn't usually make sense on furnit…

It probably should have been more than 3 hours given that you likely mean "voltage" not "amps". Before everyone jumps on me, "it is the amps that kill you, not voltage", I understand electricity quite well and in this context, saying something like "handling high amps in a university" is almost certainly not what was taught.

Once I charged a 1F (not a typo) capacitor with either a AA or 9V battery (can't remember), then touched the leads.

Youch!

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