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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by schroeding »

samizdis wrote: post #56
logifail wrote: post #21

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> Before people realize that they can't really make a 3-layer cake in a toaster Our 12-year-old recently tried to make himself "cheese on toast" by putting both cheese and uncooked bread into the (almost brand new, upright) toaster. Aaargh! Cue the house full of smoke, a stern reprimand, then a couple of hours of my time wasted on removing every last piece of burnt greasy cheese from inside the toaster, followed by s…

At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

> There is no automatic pop-up function

That's a bit too low tech for me, but otherwise looks like a solid device :D

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by deelowe »

guggleet wrote: post #118
TrackerFF wrote: post #59

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Seems like their DIY / craft vids have moved from glue guns to angle grinders and (tack) welding lately. Anyone with even the smallest amount experience with either, know that these things are accidents bound to happen.

Dunno, I have used both since I was like 13. Also, we used to weld and do all sorts of things (acetylene torching, lathe, casting, grinding, sawing, milling) mostly unsupervised with very little instruction in middle/high school metal shop. I don't remember any accidents.

Aren't lathes extremely dangerous?

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by masterbee »

HideousKojima wrote: post #50
exar0815 wrote: post #8

When I was young and stupid, I did this. Suddenly felt some tingling sensation in my fingers, threw the leads away and jumped back. Most certainly saved my life and drilled in my head how dangerous it is. Still get a sinking feeling in my stomach whenever I am at some switching station below the 380KV leads, remembering that day. Especially after knowing people who got into 120KV, and what happened to them... Electri…

I had one the other week where I was replacing an outlet in the kitchen. I flipped the kitchen breaker and the lights and appliances all turned off. I skipped the important step of actually testing the outlet and stupidly assumed it no longer had power. Turns out it was on a different circuit from the rest of the kitchen. The outlet was stuck in the wall box so I reached a flathead screwdriver in to try and pry it ou…

I have one even better, just to show how you can't be sure...

Replacing an outlet. Shut off the 2-pole breaker for the shared-neutral circuit it was on. Outlet tester showed the outlet was off. Pull the receptacle out. Used a multimeter to test each wire contact to ground; all were 0v.

Only when I disconnected all the wires did one of them develop potential because somebody had apparently tied a neutral wire to a hot in another box, but I still don't understand the situation and had an electrician address it.

So even testing each individual wire isn't certain unless they're all hanging free, unless you make the assumption that things were wired correctly in the first place.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

foobarian wrote: post #246
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #148

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I remember watching some electricians rewiring some stuff at my old workplace. We were moving into a new office, and had to have some light switches changed for the new zone. The electrician popped open the switch plates, yanked out the old switches, clipped the wires, stripped the wires, wired up the new switches, and screwed everything back together. It was all live (like 300 volt live), as the lights turned on (qu…

Meh, for 120V or 220V worst can happen is you get a little shock or trip the breakers. I don't bother shutting off power to household circuits either. I heard from HV vets that one acquires a habit of keeping one hand in the back pocket when working on substations, industrial installations, and such. :-) Not sure where there would be 300V for light switches/fixtures though. Some bespoke factory setup?

The lights were using some higher voltage. The Operations Manager mentioned it to me, while the work was being done. Apparently, it's standard. Something like 320 volts (don't remember the exact number). I had not heard of it, beforehand.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by Symmetry »

sebastianconcpt wrote: post #133
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

Wait until youtube recommends you to click on "How to start a fission reactor in your garage".

Just like the Radioactive Boy Scout. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by mrtksn »

framapotari wrote: post #225
mrtksn wrote: post #206

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Speech is not magic spell. Sure, in Turkey the government believes that Netflix makes people gay and they regulate Netflix to ungay the Turkish youth but this is just as ridiculous as the censorship on other topics on other parts of the world. If someone is dying because of a video, the fix is not in removal of the video. Sure, you can put labels agains poor judgement like they do on physical products.

> If someone is dying because of a video, the fix is not in removal of the video It might not be 'the' fix but it could be 'a' fix. If your interest is preventing deaths that is.

Many things can be a fix to many problems. Listening devices at homes can be a fix to domestic violence for example.

The point is, for "a fix" of an issue we are trading things and I don't find it a good trade. Total unchallenged censorship is ot a good compromise to "save the kids".

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Post by lancesells »

mrtksn wrote: post #247
framapotari wrote: post #231

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Where did the police come in? We were talking about Youtube selecting what to make available on their platform. Is that analogous to the police stifling your speech in your view?

Yes, it is in the same effect due to the ubiquity of the platform. IMHO, platforms with that significant user base should be regulated as utility.

So you think all guidelines should be eliminated? https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567?hl=en

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Post by t_mann »

cupofpython wrote: post #250
t_mann wrote: post #232

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The salvaging actually helped the learning experience immensely - shows the kid that carelessness can have lasting consequences. Replacing the toaster and yelling 'We had to spend $X to get a new one now!' will be forgotten by the end of the day.

>The salvaging actually helped the learning experience immensely - shows the kid that carelessness can have lasting consequences. If the kid was present for it. Otherwise, its very much just another "oopsie" they did that mom and dad clean up behind the scenes and they have no idea what the difference is between ruining a toaster and spilling a glass of milk. >We had to spend $X to get a new one now! I would never sa…

> I would never say this to my kids.

So what would the learning experience consist of then?

> If the kid was present for it.

OP mentioned several hours of work + dry runs in the garden. Pretty hard to miss that, unless they're perpetually glued to their screens (which would be the bigger concern). PS: Also, unless you take your kid to a physical store, the new toaster will pop up even more magically than the cleaned one.

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

nsxwolf wrote: post #215
samizdis wrote: post #56

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At the risk of sounding like a salesperson, I'd like to mention a feature of basic/classic Dualit toasters - namely, the optional and elegantly simple sandwich cage. [1] The cage is designed to take two slices of bread with a filling (in my usage, always heavy on the cheese). You put this into the toaster slot, which is vertical, and safely make cheese/whatever toasties. So, your 12-year-old had the right idea, but n…

There's no electrocution risk with that?

Yeah. Using literally any other normal method seems much safer and cleaner than that idea.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by Dylan16807 »

fendy3002 wrote: post #204
jimnotgym wrote: post #158

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Every electrician I have met, has had some kind of shock in their career. Mostly it is a small induced current issue, which can easily kill you if it knocks you off a ladder....

No matter how many times I see someone changing computer parts while the power is still connected, if I'm doing it I always unplug the power then pressing the power button to ensure it's unpowered

While that's a good idea because of potential part damage, I don't think that 5/12 volt supply counts as dangerous in any meaningful way.
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