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TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Yes, but Google is on our, well "my" side. I would expect an "adversary" nationstate, like China, to respond with similar alarm.

Google is on nobody’s “side” but their own. They’re an amoral bureaucracy trying to make money. Nothing more or less.

Hence my use of quotes.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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It’s incredible that the US allowed TikTok (which is by all measures a chinese spy tool) to become such a dominant social network. India got it right from the beggining by banning TikTok. They saw the immense threat and didn’t hesitate. China, by principle, has always banned all foreign information technology companies. What seemed hostile for us, it’s a reasonable play if you understand the unmeasurable power of mas…

The fact that India would consider TikTok a threat but not Meta leads me to believe that it wasn't done on a purely espionage basis. The threat of TikTok, today, it still theoretical, while Facebook has done measurable harm to India's neighbors.

Meta's entrentched. While I agree with sibling poster about the different levels of information gathered, there's also a difference between what can be gotten away with politically. Banning a network very few of your citizens are on is much easier than banning one of the primary networks that nearly everyone uses and relies on.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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The fact that India would consider TikTok a threat but not Meta leads me to believe that it wasn't done on a purely espionage basis. The threat of TikTok, today, it still theoretical, while Facebook has done measurable harm to India's neighbors.

Tiktok is a far worse threat to India than Meta though. Unlike China, US is not an adversary of India and US didn't kill Indian soldiers just two years back. So it makes sense they would go after Tiktok. The harm is just not espionage, it is also manipulation of sentiment by propoganda. Also, I am not really sure with all the equivalence to Meta in this thread. Sure, Meta has things to be criticized about but if one…

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Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Twitter should bring back Vine so we have a US ran equivalent.

Or maybe we should just support and adopt open source alternatives, so that the rest of the world doesn't get stuck into pointless geopolitical disputes?

> Or maybe we should just support and adopt open source alternatives...

That's a fantasy that makes the perfect into an enemy of the good.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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> It wasn't bad few years ago; some western countries such the UK loved to say how good China is. Hmm. What are you basing this on?

A quick google search may bring you some results. Until very recently(i.e the Huawei thing) the main idea was that China is the best thing since the sliced bread. I believe leaving Europe and focusing on China was seen as the next step in trade and foreign policy. That didn't age well though... >> In 2015 George Osborne, the then chancellor, promised a ‘golden decade’ for Chinese-British relations as he drummed up su…

There was a lull when globalist enthusiasts, such as Osborne, were more than happy to sell us out. China is a distinct evil that should never have been allowed to hack our economic system with their hyper scale authoritarian meat-robot control systems. People are not people to the party any more than cells are alive to anyone making a game of life clone

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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It might be that China is rounding up Muslims and oh, I don't know, putting them in camps against their will? Maybe just a skosh? Or that time China shot at several Indian soldiers and killed a few?

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> The US has just done far worse.

Nah, you just hear about most of the US's screw-ups. I seriously doubt any of us in the West have an inkling of the atrocities they commit.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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India is the only country banned tiktok. Huge respect for the country

At least 20 Indian soldiers were killed in a clash with Chinese forces in Ladakh border area[0]. Banning Chinese apps isn't exactly a severe response.

[0]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53061476

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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>The US has a judicial branch that frequently operates at odds against its own executive branch, by design. Maybe if you are from US, if you are not from US you have no rights, US gov can spy on you, or even kill you without any legal consequences because it will be legal from US POV

I'm mostly referring to the rights of private companies operating under US law to dispute executive action. Apple, for example, refuses to unlock phones regardless of the citizenship status of user.

Apple unlock drama was over "all writs act" where FBI compelled Apple to write new software to access user hardware versus using alleged (non)existing capabilities. FBI ended up using third party solutions, but after US gov decided to simply cirvumvent user layer via CLOUD act to simply legistate that manufactures have to make such remote access capabilities available, aka adopting PRC requirements. Seems to me, functionally US is not substantively different than PRC in having legal framework to gather any user cloud data. And with respect to Apple, for reference Apple maintain they didn't have capability to give user data to any government including PRC. They also handed icloud keys to PRC control a few months after Cloud Act, so technically Apple was "compromised" in US before PRC. At end of the day, US domestic lawfares achieves it's nationals security goals.
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