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TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

Is this collection different from, say, Meta? I believe they collect all the same information via Instagram. And before someone says Meta is an American company, not controlled by an adversary, let me recall that it’s controlled by Zuckerberg who spent $419 million to influence US election administration in a seemingly partisan way (“democracy hacking” as another commenter said). Meta may not be YOUR adversary, but t…

in a seemingly partisan way

Seemingly doing a lot of lifting here

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#152
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Is there someone here that work at TikTok who could explain how collecting such that brings any value to TikTok. That's an honest question. I understand that we're being tracked with cookies, email address, FB/Google accounts. But the biometric stuff, what is it for ? It seems very disproportionate to me if it's just for advertising.

The Biometrics was collected for face overlays.

Want to look like a lion? They scan your face, use their algorithm to stretch the lion face on you, and because you're moving, it's a compute intense thing so done more in the cloud than on-device.

But as it's off device biometrics, it falls into the Illinois BIPA category (only focused biometrics law in the USA) so they collect consent up front.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#153

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Not yet . The only way to make sure that it continues like this is if nobody can collect the data.

> Not yet. So no, the answer is no. And there are laws in place that prevent such a change from occurring. > nobody can collect the data. It's unrealistic to think no one will be scraping data. You just need laws around who can do it, can for what reasons. And enforcement. (all of these things only possible in non-autocratic countries)

> laws in place that prevent such a change from occurring.

Haven't you learned anything from Snowden?

> You just need laws around who can do it, can for what reasons.

You just make illegal to use personal data for any other thing that is not the service being directly provided to the customer.

Personalized ads? Tracking cookies? Ad bids? Make all these illegal and the collection of data will stop being profitable. Stop making it profitable, and companies will no longer be interested in doing.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#154

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

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Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#155
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Interior, crocodile, alligator, TikTok is a covert surveillance aggregator.

Like google, twitter, facebook, instagram, apple and more.

You keep jumping into every convo with this weak retort.

Google and Apple aren't rounding up Muslims into camps.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#156
post #36

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

Is this collection different from, say, Meta? I believe they collect all the same information via Instagram. And before someone says Meta is an American company, not controlled by an adversary, let me recall that it’s controlled by Zuckerberg who spent $419 million to influence US election administration in a seemingly partisan way (“democracy hacking” as another commenter said). Meta may not be YOUR adversary, but t…

Let's not forget a lot of the smear campaigns against TikTok were secretly funded by Facebook/Meta https://www.engadget.com/meta-targeted-victory-tiktok-smear-...

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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It's TikTok. Funny jokes and dance videos. And they're collecting no more than American IT companies are doing. "I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewhat unknown purpose." Are you for real? The one country that fits the description of not-so-friendly military-complex is the U.S. itself. A more pressing problem and quest…

This comment makes it pretty clear you don't use tiktok or have a very clear understanding of its content. A huge portion of content is political, and especially divisive. People are constantly targeted with content that either reinforces or insults their more extreme political beliefs. This is exactly how personal data is being used against individuals - to target divisive political content and maximize political an…

You're literally describing every major user generated content platform.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Trump tried to ban it in 2020 out of "national security concerns" similar to Huawei. The ACLU and media painted it as anti free speech and xenophobia and never gave the claims any serious scrutiny. > On July 7, 2020, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that the government was considering banning TikTok.[26] In response, experts[weasel words] suggested that Trump's proposed TikTok ban may threaten free speec…

Sort of a fruit of a poisoned well - if prior trade action hadn’t been transparently lying about a national security pretext warning about TikTok would have been received better.

Oh please. The people who complained didn't care about that. They didn't like Trump, and would complain about anything he did regardless of the merit. They are nakedly partisan.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#159
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The most obvious (capitalist) application would be to use the data to build AI "creators". Some of these real people make good money as influencers. And if TikTok could use computers to generate influencers, they could seriously cash in. The military applications of this tech would be to stir up decent or manufacture outrage in a country for political gains. Or maybe both. Selling military tech to other countries is…

>The military applications of this tech would be to stir up decent or manufacture outrage in a country for political gains. I didn't need that thought in my life, thank you. Seriously, though, this genuinely makes it possible to gently tweak an algorithm (which is absolutely invisible to anyone outside the company or the Chinese government) to nudge public opinion. Like, you could probably nudge elections by a percen…

My theory is that this is already happening, just with a mix of bots and human actors.

Start keeping a list of common "retorts" to certain topics. Then jump sites and see if those retorts are used there too. You'll find almost copy and paste wording.

There are edge cases where it looks like two of these semi-automated groups square off and you get bot gibberish that goes on to infinity.

Dead internet theory may be a bit closer to truth then we like to admit.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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> Meta is different because of the US fails as a state, they lose. China doesn't. Oh, so it's us vs them . Gotcha.

It always is. And I'm rather on the side of the west than the side of the CCP.

As a European I am ... not sure I see the truth in that argument. Not anyone who speaks some form of English is automatically western, mind.
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