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TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by throwaway29812 »

rglullis wrote: post #116
throwaway29812 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has the US Gov utilized data from private companies to aid in the targeting and internment of their own citizens ? https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/12/09/china-big-data-program-t...

Not yet . The only way to make sure that it continues like this is if nobody can collect the data.

> Not yet.

So no, the answer is no. And there are laws in place that prevent such a change from occurring.

> nobody can collect the data.

It's unrealistic to think no one will be scraping data. You just need laws around who can do it, can for what reasons. And enforcement. (all of these things only possible in non-autocratic countries)

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by throwaway29812 »

CyanBird wrote: post #108
throwaway29812 wrote: post #92

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China uses data from private industry to target and imprison undesirable ethnic and religious minorities at an unthinkable scale. https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/12/09/china-big-data-program-t... "China bad" is a casual way of dismissing these crimes, which I find to be quite repulsive.

> ... > Yet something odd happened when Borden and Prater were booked into jail: A computer program spat out a score predicting the likelihood of each committing a future crime. Borden — who is black — was rated a high risk. Prater — who is white — was rated a low risk. > Two years later, we know the computer algorithm got it exactly backward. Borden has not been charged with any new crimes. Prater is serving an eigh…

You can find individual cases of data misuse all day long. Comparing those awful but isolated cases to a large, purposeful, systemic, government run system of internment is absurd. https://thediplomat.com/2022/05/xinjiang-police-files-show-x...

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by generj »

cronix wrote: post #68
whoisjuan wrote: post #52

It’s incredible that the US allowed TikTok (which is by all measures a chinese spy tool) to become such a dominant social network. India got it right from the beggining by banning TikTok. They saw the immense threat and didn’t hesitate. China, by principle, has always banned all foreign information technology companies. What seemed hostile for us, it’s a reasonable play if you understand the unmeasurable power of mas…

Trump tried to ban it in 2020 out of "national security concerns" similar to Huawei. The ACLU and media painted it as anti free speech and xenophobia and never gave the claims any serious scrutiny. > On July 7, 2020, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that the government was considering banning TikTok.[26] In response, experts[weasel words] suggested that Trump's proposed TikTok ban may threaten free speec…

Sort of a fruit of a poisoned well - if prior trade action hadn’t been transparently lying about a national security pretext warning about TikTok would have been received better.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

aurelius83 wrote: post #27
chii wrote: post #16

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would you not make the same argument for google?

Is Google an American company?

I swear this is a trick question... but they are headquartered in America, yes.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by hungvn94 »

CyanBird wrote: post #94
rglullis wrote: post #58

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I agree. But until then, what do you think the people should do?

Or rather, which system is more actionable for the local public, the answer to that is ofc the US, if you can't even get your own country to not spy on its citizens either through corporate espionage or through direct gov espionage, what hope do you hold of tangling with foreign countries to coerce them to also not spy? If anything it seems hypocrite to do that!

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Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by bogomipz »

upupandup wrote: post #5

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

Might you or someone else have a link to that article?

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

moomoo11 wrote: post #71
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #65

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> if they’re cool with it that’s on them right? If their nonchalance impacts my security, no, it’s on me as well.

I don’t like TikTok so I don’t use it. How does it impact my security when nobody I know or associate with uses it? It’s like drugs. I’m pro drug legalization but I’m not interested in using them just because it’s legal.

Until you are injured by someone high off their ass? Or robbed by someone looking for their next fix? Or your kid becomes an addict?

These aren't wild jumps.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by generj »

hammock wrote: post #138
generj wrote: post #132

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Expanding and insuring ballot box access shouldn’t be considered partisan. That it is represents a failure in whatever party seeks to restrict voting.

Part of the reason Zuck Bucks are viewed as partisan is because of the way in which they ended up being deployed. >On average, Biden counties received $2.85 per vote, compared to Trump counties that only received $0.89. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10090603/Mark-Zucke...

But couldn’t that simply be explained by GOP counties applying for less aid?

So long as every county could receive funds equally, the fact some received less isn’t at all damning.

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Post by theplumber »

easytiger wrote: post #91
theplumber wrote: post #37

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Not really. Tiktok is bad because all of the sudden China became bad. It wasn't bad few years ago; some western countries such the UK loved to say how good China is. The U.S apps are "good" because they are PRISM-enabled and your have nothing to hide from the U.S gov, right?

> It wasn't bad few years ago; some western countries such the UK loved to say how good China is. Hmm. What are you basing this on?

A quick google search may bring you some results. Until very recently(i.e the Huawei thing) the main idea was that China is the best thing since the sliced bread. I believe leaving Europe and focusing on China was seen as the next step in trade and foreign policy. That didn't age well though...

>> In 2015 George Osborne, the then chancellor, promised a ‘golden decade’ for Chinese-British relations as he drummed up support for new trade opportunities and inward investment.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Post by vorpalhex »

salt-thrower wrote: post #81
theplumber wrote: post #54

It's also worth to remember: "Facebook Inc. has been paying hundreds of outside contractors to transcribe clips of audio from users of its services" "Social network says it paused human review of conversations" So again my question is wtf is so big fuss about tiktok. We already knew about PRISM and that all the data goes to the government. It also goes to 3rd party contractors, advertisers and who knows who else... h…

I have the same take as you, and reading all these comments makes me feel like I’m on crazy pills. Google and Meta apparently get a pass because they’re “American companies.” Even though we know that they collect personal data and manipulate people en masse as part of their core product offerings. And of course, through PRISM and other programs, the US govt has access to much of it. I think people are just scared bec…

It might be that China is rounding up Muslims and oh, I don't know, putting them in camps against their will?

Maybe just a skosh?

Or that time China shot at several Indian soldiers and killed a few?

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