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The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by antifa »

towaway15463 wrote: post #262
labrador wrote: post #28

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My first reaction when I heard Elon Musk was buying Twitter was "have he and his team figured out the moderation problem?" followed by "he probably hasn't given it much thought because if he did he would realize he doesn't need that headache on his way to Mars."

I imagine he’s just going to introduce a simple yet “radical” solution like allowing people to pay a small fee for verified status and adding the option to filter out all non-validated accounts. That should kill off a large number of the bots and sock puppet accounts.

That'll be more effective at creating a poor people exclusion zone than stopping adtroturfing/sock puppets/spam.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by tux2bsd »

atq2119 wrote: post #221
tux2bsd wrote: post #119

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I sort of suspect you're not here in good faith, but just in case: my impression is that there is a difference between left and right when it comes to empathy, but it's not the amount of empathy per se, it's who benefits from it. The size of the tribe, if you will. Painting with a broad brush, conservatives show empathy only for people like themselves and perhaps close family and friends or a local community. Progres…

It's actually the inverse of what you believe.

Conservatives will help externally, very generously when conditions permit. Progressives will demand their in group be helped, to other progressives (within the in group) this looks like caring action is taking place but the shortsighted view of the situation does not see who is being helped.

Take your city example, the city will demand food while simultaneously mocking the farmer, and taxing the farmer more if he exhibits success. The farmer knows he must produce as others depend on him.

You are likely letting America's strange healthcare situation cloud your view. That situation is fucking bizarre. Everyone should have access to publicly funded emergency health care, like we do in NZ (but do not make the mistake of thinking that it is a fantastic situation here either, private health insurance has become more normal unfortunately (i.e. our idiot government is making it more like the US for healthcare)).

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by IntelMiner »

3qz wrote: post #347
AlecSchueler wrote: post #341

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This is pure FUD and very dangerous. Firstly, you're talking about a different sub that what I linked to, grouping these together. The subs I linked are female led and moderated, at least BFHS. Secondly, they also have large numbers of participants from a range of backgrounds with a range of motivations. The subreddits they are discussing tend to have 10s of 1000s of followers actively engaging in various levels of h…

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"male women"

You mean transgender people? Because that's a pretty offensive description

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by thefz »

philjohn wrote: post #157
thefz wrote: post #109

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You are automatically banned from some subs if you comment/post in other blacklisted, "rival" communities. Let this sink in.

And yet that can also be valid - the /r/teen sub, which is meant as a safe place for teenagers to talk, bans people who've posted in creepy subs - do you disagree with that?

The only real answer is that teenagers have no place on the public Internet, let alone a forum dedicated to them

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by himinlomax »

multjoy wrote: post #367
himinlomax wrote: post #237

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I don't, because it's immediately scrubbed. But I've seen it happen ine real time.

Very convenient.

What do you expect me to do? Hack reddit's Postgres databases to recover deleted comments?

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by tux2bsd »

noasaservice wrote: post #320
unconed wrote: post #51

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Woke refers to an ideology that, among other things, uses manipulative arguments, framing and emotional appeals to hide the fact that it is intellectual quicksand, serving people who want to morally elevate themselves without substance. Exactly like you just did.

From Wikipedia: Woke is an English adjective meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination" that originated in African-American Vernacular English (AAVE). Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism, and has also been used as shorthand for American Left ideas involving identity politics and social justice, such as the notion of white privilege and sla…

noasaservice, you are the epitome of woke - a living meme.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by IntelMiner »

antifa wrote: post #381
towaway15463 wrote: post #262

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I imagine he’s just going to introduce a simple yet “radical” solution like allowing people to pay a small fee for verified status and adding the option to filter out all non-validated accounts. That should kill off a large number of the bots and sock puppet accounts.

That'll be more effective at creating a poor people exclusion zone than stopping adtroturfing/sock puppets/spam.

Sounds like something he'd want anyway https://existentialcomics.com/comic/other/17

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by multjoy »

himinlomax wrote: post #385
multjoy wrote: post #367

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Very convenient.

What do you expect me to do? Hack reddit's Postgres databases to recover deleted comments?

Offer up something more than a vague "I saw this thing one time, trust me on this"?

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by sirspacey »

thefz wrote: post #384
philjohn wrote: post #157

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And yet that can also be valid - the /r/teen sub, which is meant as a safe place for teenagers to talk, bans people who've posted in creepy subs - do you disagree with that?

The only real answer is that teenagers have no place on the public Internet, let alone a forum dedicated to them

I’d encourage you to consider than one of the public goods Reddit provides is to homeless teams & vulnerable people escaping abusive family.

Given the incredible breadth of services available to those individuals & yet the very real evidence that it continues to be a significant societal challenges, it’s worth considering the role a supportive community of random strangers play.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by sirspacey »

sascha_sl wrote: post #329
sirspacey wrote: post #14

I cannot buy into a wholesale generalization that mods are power tripping people who deserve our contempt because they are lonely. There’s all kinds of motivations for being a mod. I rarely find a sub where mods aren’t dealing with far more BS than they are putting out. If I don’t agree with how mods handle a channel, I leave. I think it’s important that we question the usefulness of blaming society for the lack of q…

> This is where I do wholeheartedly agree with author - the loss of Aaron and RSS feeds was the end of the cyberpunk movement in the browser based web. Aside from not calling it a "cyberpunk movement", the people who work on such tech are still around. See: Mastodon, Pleroma.

fair - I don’t mean to define his work or vision, just my own sense of admiration for seeking to establish a source of knowledge not fully co-opted by institutions.
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