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The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by pas »

winternett wrote: post #57
mjr00 wrote: post #18

As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

Reddit is hijacking content by requiring it to be hosted on it's own CDN... It's one of the main reasons why they put up walls. Many reddit users are actively involved in content and credit theft as well, but no one knows about how deep it runs. In a world where creators are going unviewed from IG to TikTok, there is literally an underground repost network that literally steals and reposts content to claim credit and…

> Reddit is hijacking content by requiring it to be hosted on it's own CDN..

does it require it or provide it as an option?

as far as I know you can submit image URLs just fine. gyfcat and imgur videos are regularly on r/all.

hosting multimedia content provides a better experience. does it have downsides? yes. just with google's AMP.

a bit offtopic, but tiktok creators' fund is already shortshelling creators. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAZapFzpP64

and this endless reposting of viral content ... well, it's ongoing since we have viral content. is it great? of course not, but it's not like the reddit CDN somehow changed anything with regards to this problem.

youtube has contentID ... "creators" are free to organize and advocate for reddit/IG/tiktok to introduce it (or lobby US/EU/China to mandate it or whatever)

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by towaway15463 »

labrador wrote: post #28
ivraatiems wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I strongly agree with your comparison, I think it's apt. There's just no way to have a tolerably pleasant public-facing community online without some kind of moderation, and people have been railing about moderators in said communities for as long as those communities have existed. That doesn't mean moderation is an easy job, or that it shouldn't be done judiciously or consistently, but it can't be abandoned.

My first reaction when I heard Elon Musk was buying Twitter was "have he and his team figured out the moderation problem?" followed by "he probably hasn't given it much thought because if he did he would realize he doesn't need that headache on his way to Mars."

I imagine he’s just going to introduce a simple yet “radical” solution like allowing people to pay a small fee for verified status and adding the option to filter out all non-validated accounts. That should kill off a large number of the bots and sock puppet accounts.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by sph »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #60
mjr00 wrote: post #18

As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

Do you feel anyone has improved upon what Reddit is doing? Or have you only found satisfaction in specific communities on specific sites? Are there non traditional communities like Tildetown that you enjoy?

I have in fact. I have discovered a forum that used to be quite popular back in the day and very chaotic. It literally spawned 4chan at the time, but in the meantime it kept going, many left and grew out of it and the remaining posters are now in their 30s and I've had some of the best and some of the most inane discussions of the past few years in there, with topics for most of my interest, gaming, mental health, programming, stairs. Surprisingly there's a lot of people with newer accounts. Parts of it are still a bit of a cesspool, but it's what the Internet we love to reminisce was also about, instead of the sanitised corporate web we're dealing with today.

It's been an arduous process but I've managed to replace Reddit with a few forums, HN included, that are still alive to this day.

And I've completely banned myself from Reddit. It's hard given how much information is stored on that site.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by Beltalowda »

czhu12 wrote: post #83

I'm curious what reddit even aspires to be at its greatest. Most of the popular subreddit's comment sections have top rated comments being something totally predictable and sarcastic. Right now the top post on r/news is [1] Contrasted to the equivalent story on hackernews: [2] There isn't anything remotely thought provoking in the top rated comments on reddit as there is on hackernews. It seems to me this isn't due t…

HN is a debate club, Reddit is a bar. Neither is "better"; it's just a different type of socializing/communicating.

And there are also subs which disallow snarky "fuck this country"-kind of takes.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by netfortius »

For those of us, needing a VPN from time to time, this platform is unusable. From a decision they took to suspend my oldest over 11.5k karma acct, when I started travel, thus use of diff VPN exit points in Europe, through to almost 20 other accounts I attempted to create, since, whenever I used one with and without VPN within the span of a few hours, I get the dreaded suspension reaction.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by lapcat »

leereeves wrote: post #227
dTal wrote: post #211

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That's pretty disingenuous, considering that the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack is currently headline news.

Have people forgotten 2016 so quickly? The left had a nationwide movement named "Occupy" and the Democrats and most media approved. The right did it once and the same people all lost their minds.

> Have people forgotten 2016 so quickly?

Occupy Wall Street was 2011.

The crucial difference between January 6 and Occupy Wall Street is that the members of Congress and the Vice President were inside the Capitol Building on January 6, whereas no elected officials were in Zuccotti Park during Occupy Wall Street. If the break-in of the Capitol had occurred while it was empty, that would have been a different matter, still serious, but not giving the appearance of a coup attempt.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by sph »

a_e_k wrote: post #68
ivraatiems wrote: post #12

I have a different take: The main problem with reddit is in how badly it's bungled its several different redesigns over the last few years, and how it's slowly ruined its users' experience in misguided attempts to drive mobile traffic to its app. Right now, here's the process for browsing a subreddit on mobile without the (ads and tracking loaded) reddit app: 1. Navigate to subreddit. Find out which of two (non-NSFW)…

> 4. Give up, and go to old.reddit.com, which is ugly and not designed for mobile, but at least works okay. I use i.reddit.com for this. (Thank goodness it still works.)

It's pretty buggy and unmaintained, when you scroll down entries past #20 start repeating.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by sph »

tux2bsd wrote: post #79
unconed wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Woke refers to an ideology that, among other things, uses manipulative arguments, framing and emotional appeals to hide the fact that it is intellectual quicksand, serving people who want to morally elevate themselves without substance. Exactly like you just did.

Quoted post unavailable.

Crawl back to 4chan. While I agree that Reddit has turned too politically correct, it's obvious you're here just to troll, not have a discussion.

Waiting for your insightful "that's pretty woke of you" retort.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by matthewdgreen »

Noumenon72 wrote: post #255
Angostura wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Give an example - you can do that here.

How about the sticky on the /r/atheism Roe thread?[1] The moderation team states that "there is no non-bigoted way of advocating" against abortion, that any argument you have "has already been addressed and thoroughly refuted", and that speaking up "will result in an immediate, permanent ban." The mods are absolutely opposed to freedom of expression. Nobody was shutting down discourse like this when I was growing up.…

The Internet has always been full of private fora where people limit the range of discussion. There are plenty of subreddits where you can express your views, should they happen to fall on the opposing side of the issue.

The freedom to have discussions on topics you want in restricted spaces is not censorship, folks. And it’s (unfortunately) a thing that happens when your space is open to the entire global Internet.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by unityByFreedom »

imgabe wrote: post #213
winternett wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is hijacking content by requiring it to be hosted on it's own CDN... It's one of the main reasons why they put up walls. Many reddit users are actively involved in content and credit theft as well, but no one knows about how deep it runs. In a world where creators are going unviewed from IG to TikTok, there is literally an underground repost network that literally steals and reposts content to claim credit and…

I’m confused. Reddit user steals content from Tiktok. They upload it to Reddit’s CDN. How does the Reddit user get paid for this?

That's funny. I remember when nobody knew what TikTok was, and TikTok-watermarked videos were all over Reddit's front page. It was a great marketing spot for them.
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