This guy doesn't sound like his problem was weed's potency. I don't follow this article's connection between the two.
As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick
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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick
#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
THC is THC, but there are other compounds in the plant that appear important in the texture of the experience. Many people report the same, and following the delta-8 legalization wave they are apparently fractionally distilling the plant extract and separating out many of the active components.
https://bedrocan.com/international-research-shows-no-genetic... > The research shows that genetically it is impossible to prove whether a cannabis plant is an Indica or Sativa. There is no difference in the genes. > The overall chemical profile, like the genetics, shows no apparent difference between the labels.
I mean, this is like saying that sweet onions aren't sweet. Yes, it's a regular onion, but growing conditions, fertilizers, and in-situ conditions mean that it is, in fact, a sweeter onion. Genetics would show that it's not different, but it has an obvious difference which is measurable through non-genetic means.
Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick
#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
Much like your original comment and despite having zero knowledge of the subject, you are arrogantly stringing together random words in an attempt to belittle people for being "stupid or naive." CHS is not rare, nor does it require extreme dosage. It affects approximately 7% of smokers. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29327809/
> belittle people for being "stupid or naive." CHS is not rare, nor does it require extreme dosage. It affects approximately 7% of smokers. Allow me to quote directly from the article linked to by you, > Patients between the ages of 18-49 years who reported smoking marijuana at least 20 days per month. Among 2127 patients approached for participation, 155 met inclusion criteria as smoking 20 or more days per month. A…
You're now making inflammatory claims about how you understand statistics better than NYU scientists and professors. Yet, all you've actually done is invent some numbers in your head and call them statistics, while also redefining bias. You even conveniently left out the rest of the researchers' quote which shows your premise is utter nonsense:
"If this is extractable to the general population, approximately 2.75 million (2.13-3.38 million) Americans may suffer annually from a phenomenon similar to CHS."
There are approximately 35,000,000 regular smokers. 2.75m / 35m is 7.8%.
> Also, the dataset is likely biased because it consists of patients already presenting to the ER.
That's not how bias works. In fact, you're introducing your own concocted bias, because you've limited the dataset to the ER visits and not the population. Your 2.3% number only represents the number of undiagnosed vomiting cases that could be attributed to CHS, which has no relevance to the number of smokers who experience vomiting. You don't have any understanding of statistics.
> These conditions are very broad and symptoms of CHS match closely the symptoms of regular overdose, and most of the relief methods are also directly applicable to regular overdoses.
You're now suggesting that these situations aren't actually marjiuana-related at all, but instead some other drug overdose that the ER staff totally missed. So, not only do you purport to understand statistics better than everyone else, but your medical expertise apparently surpasses that of ER doctors. Your trolling is outrageous.
Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick
#384Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this is largely the problem with mobile phones as well. Like you probably aren't going to go mad or get rectangular eyes or whatever, but you can just sort of sedate that sensation of boredom with scrolling reddit or facebook or whatever, which does all of bupkis for making us happy in the long term.
This is the same argument with all consuming vs producing. It's why there was a moral panic in the 1800s over Jane Austen style fiction, in the 1930s over radio, and so on. Being addicted to cannabis is not really any different to playing computer games 12 hours a day, doing endless marathons, watching sports, investing, or many similar activities.
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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick
#385Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the same argument with all consuming vs producing. It's why there was a moral panic in the 1800s over Jane Austen style fiction, in the 1930s over radio, and so on. Being addicted to cannabis is not really any different to playing computer games 12 hours a day, doing endless marathons, watching sports, investing, or many similar activities.
I'm 90% sure that "endless marathons" referred to "watching entire seasons of shows on NetFlix", not "running 26.2 miles over and over".
Although if you are a good runner, I've heard moderate cannabis usage can help bring on the runners high much quicker making running more fun.
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#386Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, a life that is in content and has meaning trumps all those whatever higher trajectory means. I mean.. isn’t achieving those higher trajectories the goal of being content and having achieve the meaning if it exits at all?
Watching your child being content to work at Taco Bell for the next 50 years is not something to be proud of. Regardless of contentment.
Everyone is focusing on whether being content with working at Taco Bell is sufficient in life, but I think the more interesting question is whether they truly are content. That's not for me to answer, but if the South Park quote has any truth (and I think it has more than a little), in 50 years' time, they themselves might not be happy with how things went in retrospect. In that case, it's possible they weren't really content all that time, but were using weed to avoid deeply feeling that discontent.
I say this as someone with at least a little experience, not to be judgmental.
Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick
#387I know a cannabis entrepreneur who makes high-quality gummies standardized to 150 mg THC which is, I think, too much. As a cannabis experienced user I find these make me feel hosed for six hours or so. It may or may not be a good time, but I'm certainly not going to do more than lay on my ass. If I take half of one of those (75 mg) it is a strong intoxication, pretty consistently a good time, and I can go for a walk,…
Is this in the US? What state? I've only seen menus in NJ, IL, and most edibles are like 5-10mg per piece and seem to top out at 25mg per piece, but those tend to be big pieces that look like they are meant to be broken apart (like a Hershey bar). I think setting national standards around this would be just one benefit of legalizing recreational use at the federal level.
Last time I went to the dispensary near me in Michigan, the budtender started off with the 100mg gummies when I said I was looking for edibles.
Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick
#388I know a cannabis entrepreneur who makes high-quality gummies standardized to 150 mg THC which is, I think, too much. As a cannabis experienced user I find these make me feel hosed for six hours or so. It may or may not be a good time, but I'm certainly not going to do more than lay on my ass. If I take half of one of those (75 mg) it is a strong intoxication, pretty consistently a good time, and I can go for a walk,…
Sweet Christ. 150mg? Goddamn, I hope my tolerance never gets that bad. That'd be so expensive. 1/10 that at once is enough to get me fucked up enough that, if I had taken more, I'd just be asleep.
Seriously. I accidentally ate 1/4 of a 100mg THC chocolate bar, but it was not the right hybrid to keep me asleep, so I was in and out for hours. 25 mg is more than twice my preferred THC dose.
Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick
#389Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Coffee? every day is fine I wonder how people will look back on coffee hundreds of years from now. "Almost everyone used to constantly drink an addictive stimulant. Shops on every block sold it. People stated that they couldn't function (or even talk) in the morning until they had consumed the stimulant. At work, people needed to take constant stimulant breaks. If someone went a day without it, they often suffered…
It only sounds like a dystopian science fiction if you describe it as such.
Language is really interesting in that way. You can positively or negatively frame literally anything without actually being untruthful.
Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick
#390Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many years ago I was sitting at my computer smoking after work like I normally did, and I asked myself, "What would I be doing if I wasn't smoking right now" and I couldn't answer it. I tapered off pretty easily and began to fill my time with other hobbies. I was never the type of smoker which was "active". I would smoke socially and began to hate that I could never remember people's names or conversations. It made m…
> it's still very easy for me to overshoot and get into a state I hate. Marijuana turns me into a complete idiot and creates a sort of cerebral haze I can't stand I can only enjoy THC as a sleep aid for the reasons you’ve highlighted above. For me, it feels like mj is underclocking my brain. I am aware of it and I hate being slow. It’s a terrible feeling. I enjoy alcohol much more even though mj is safer overall. The…
Interesting. For me the roles are reversed. Alcohol makes me feel dumb, like I can't think as fast or clearly. THC has a very different effect. I don't feel slow, I mostly feel calm and clear. Sort of in the ballpark of meditating. I've done some of my best writing on weed. I've written some great code high. I prefer low doses (10mg) of a nice hybrid edibles with a decent amount of CBD (1:1 or 2:1) for this.
And yeah, the schizophrenia risk would make me think twice about it if that ran in my family. Though I'm now at an age where that wouldn't matter (schizophrenia almost always manifest by your 30s which I cleared a while back).