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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by the_gipsy » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 6:50 PM UTC

spywaregorilla wrote: post #196

coding123 wrote: post #151

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You're saying that if everyone in the world started to take cocaine daily, a high percentage of people, say 80-90% can handle it.

What does handling it mean if you're taking cocaine daily? Taking drugs daily is already likely beyond the point of dependence. Regardless of will power, you will almost certainly develop some level of chemical addiction and tolerance trying to use cocaine, recreational-y, daily. I would say the question is invalid. I meant most people can do cocaine once, or at an infrequent irregular frequency without getting addic…

This is debatable. If there is a critical mass of people doing cocaine regularly, then more people will get addicted with that availability.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by worker_person » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 6:51 PM UTC

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

Yep my daughter had a friend introduce her. She spent 5 years on it. 100% dependent on it. Entire time swearing up and down it didn't affect her. Of course we could all tell.

Only when her finance had a psychotic breakdown and tried to kill everyone from it did she finally get off of it. Was 2 months before he didn't sound like an anime villain who was going to take over the world.

She keeps commenting at much more energy and less depressed she is, how she isn't always irritated at everything. She had no idea it was affecting her like that. For us we have our sweet loving and caring daughter back.

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Post by deberon » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 6:52 PM UTC

iamdbtoo wrote: post #264

lacker wrote: post #124

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Yeah exactly. Like a lazy night isn't the worst thing in the world... it isn't even all that bad. It's not like you're breaking into cars for meth money or drunkenly assaulting people. But still, do you really want every night of your life to be vape pen, Netflix, order pizza? I don't really know the best way to kick the habit or to reduce it. It seems like different things work for different people. Maybe it would h…

What's your expience with cannabis that makes you think every weed smoker only watches tv and eats pizza?

They were responding to a weed smoker who claimed to do exactly that.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by loldk » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 6:53 PM UTC

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by sva_ » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 6:53 PM UTC

sushid wrote: post #322

makeworld wrote: post #285

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Personally I prefer https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-firefox-clea... It's more updated, and it removes Google Analytics and other shady stuff from the original extension.

Is there a Chrome version of this?

Yes. Sadly you have to install it via dev mode, and chrome seems to deactivate the extension whenever there is an update (as it needs more permissions for more sites), and I haven't found a way around it yet.

https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-chrome-clean

Hint: you can use it in Firefox Nightly on Android by defining your own extension collection:

https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extensio...

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by worker_person » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 6:53 PM UTC

nshung wrote: post #329

SoftTalker wrote: post #263

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Can confirm. Two of my kids use THC pretty regularly and they seem content with a life that is paying the bills but not really leading anywhere. The third does not (AFAIK) and is on a much higher trajectory. All had pretty much the same upbringing, rules, experiences, and discipline. I've never used it, so don't have personal experience.

To me, a life that is in content and has meaning trumps all those whatever higher trajectory means. I mean.. isn’t achieving those higher trajectories the goal of being content and having achieve the meaning if it exits at all?

Watching your child being content to work at Taco Bell for the next 50 years is not something to be proud of. Regardless of contentment.

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Post by beowulfey » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 6:54 PM UTC

blowski wrote: post #218

marginalia_nu wrote: post #200

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I think this is largely the problem with mobile phones as well. Like you probably aren't going to go mad or get rectangular eyes or whatever, but you can just sort of sedate that sensation of boredom with scrolling reddit or facebook or whatever, which does all of bupkis for making us happy in the long term.

This is the same argument with all consuming vs producing. It's why there was a moral panic in the 1800s over Jane Austen style fiction, in the 1930s over radio, and so on. Being addicted to cannabis is not really any different to playing computer games 12 hours a day, doing endless marathons, watching sports, investing, or many similar activities.

No, but currently cannabis use is the one exploding in popularity compared to those others

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Post by vkou » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 6:55 PM UTC

kens wrote: post #288

aparticulate wrote: post #140

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cocaine is not weed though most people cannot do cocaine every day without trouble. Coffee? every day is fine different drugs have different danger

> Coffee? every day is fine I wonder how people will look back on coffee hundreds of years from now. "Almost everyone used to constantly drink an addictive stimulant. Shops on every block sold it. People stated that they couldn't function (or even talk) in the morning until they had consumed the stimulant. At work, people needed to take constant stimulant breaks. If someone went a day without it, they often suffered…

It's even stranger when you look at how I chug decaff.

I hate what caffeine does to me, but I like the taste of black coffee.

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Post by ruined » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 6:55 PM UTC

marginalia_nu wrote: post #200

mesofile wrote: post #119

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I thought the way that South Park put it (in the voice of Randy Marsh) many years ago was just about perfect: “Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and ...it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorists, but... Well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creat…

I think this is largely the problem with mobile phones as well. Like you probably aren't going to go mad or get rectangular eyes or whatever, but you can just sort of sedate that sensation of boredom with scrolling reddit or facebook or whatever, which does all of bupkis for making us happy in the long term.

thanks for reminding me that's enough hn for today

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Post by julianlam » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 6:56 PM UTC

nshung wrote: post #329

SoftTalker wrote: post #263

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Can confirm. Two of my kids use THC pretty regularly and they seem content with a life that is paying the bills but not really leading anywhere. The third does not (AFAIK) and is on a much higher trajectory. All had pretty much the same upbringing, rules, experiences, and discipline. I've never used it, so don't have personal experience.

To me, a life that is in content and has meaning trumps all those whatever higher trajectory means. I mean.. isn’t achieving those higher trajectories the goal of being content and having achieve the meaning if it exits at all?

It's a nice line of thinking, sure—that you can achieve happiness and contentment without having to strive for the "best".

That's the whole point of the matter though, isn't it, that if you don't have ambition, then you voluntarily get yourself stuck in a rut of your making. "I'm content in that my life is shitty in X or Y way, but cannot do anything about it".

There was a time when I found comfort in thinking that I would grow up to be "comfortably middle class". My parents disabused me of that notion, and now that I am at that stage, I feel as though there is so much more I can learn and do, instead of clocking in and out day after day.

But hey, if you find happiness in working at a gas station or something, maybe you are more enlightened than I am.