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The MFG make more money on selling ads to you than you pay for the TV.
This seems high to me. I'd love to see actual numbers on revenue from this type of TV ads.
Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?
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monitors dont have tv channels or hook ups for a lot of peoples cable boxes usually dont have the best (if ant) speakers or a remote either
Lack of TV antenna input can be a good thing if you live in a country that collects extra taxes for having a TV, like Austria, Ireland or Poland, as your screen is not a TV by law. IMHO there isn't much value in TV channels nowadays anyway.
"PAY YOUR TV LICENSE FEES. NOT DOING SO IS A CRIME."
If you've never heard of such a thing: https://www.gov.uk/tv-licence
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#274- "Monitor" as intended for computers (usually not that large, but this is changing)
- "Commercial display" as intended for restaurants or hotels (often still have some smart features but more controllable; usually fairly expensive). Example https://www.lg.com/us/business/commercial-displays
- Projector
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> Maybe you can use the search to find those similar questions. But the answers are probably out of date by now. E.g., my answer about buying a cheapo Spectre from Walmart-- that one has been out of stock for at least two of the several times this topic has been brought up now.
Walmart stocks them during November for shopping season. The sceptre tvs are my go to for large viewing needs. If you are into perfect picture quality, it takes some settings tweaking to get to tolerable but in my opinion is ideal for just normal TV watching and video games.
Is it always the same old hardware and software? Because if they suddenly start shipping with AdJank 0.2 you're back to square one.
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#276I’ve kept my Samsung offline since I purchased it in 2019. I’ve kept my LG offline since I purchased it in 2016. As long as you have an AppleTV or similar connected to service your need for “smarts” it won’t be hard to leave the TV offline. (I recommend LG over Samsung - Samsung TV has native undismissable ads from 2019 still)
This will work for now, but device manufacturers are working towards building out mesh networks. You may not have connected your TV to the internet, but your neighbor did, and your TV can piggy back on your neighbors connection.
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The MFG make more money on selling ads to you than you pay for the TV.
This seems high to me. I'd love to see actual numbers on revenue from this type of TV ads.
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lack of TV antenna input can be a good thing if you live in a country that collects extra taxes for having a TV, like Austria, Ireland or Poland, as your screen is not a TV by law. IMHO there isn't much value in TV channels nowadays anyway.
I lived in the UK in the 80's and remember they had TV ads that showed a SWAT team stacking up and then bursting into an apartment, grabbing a guy watching TV on his couch, throwing him on the floor and handcuffing him and then a big banner: "PAY YOUR TV LICENSE FEES. NOT DOING SO IS A CRIME." If you've never heard of such a thing: https://www.gov.uk/tv-licence
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#279I’ve kept my Samsung offline since I purchased it in 2019. I’ve kept my LG offline since I purchased it in 2016. As long as you have an AppleTV or similar connected to service your need for “smarts” it won’t be hard to leave the TV offline. (I recommend LG over Samsung - Samsung TV has native undismissable ads from 2019 still)
This will work for now, but device manufacturers are working towards building out mesh networks. You may not have connected your TV to the internet, but your neighbor did, and your TV can piggy back on your neighbors connection.
At present, connecting your device is an opt-in since you have to give it wifi creds. In the future, devices will be connected by default and you'll have to opt out if you want to disconnect. Even if you're one of the few people who opt out, devices are going to have fine print that they can always receive "critical" updates via mesh.
Eventually many devices simply assume they are always connected, it's baked into their operation. They'll delegate key features to the cloud and opt-out won't even make sense.
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#280It's one of the things that doesn't make sense anymore, like cars with manual transmission. Smarts in smart TV might cost $25 per unit, but OEMs get paid for streaming service placements on remote / home screen and a cut of revenue if users sign up. Even without streaming functionality, TV would still need some smarts to display tuner/inputs/settings UI and it's cheaper to develop Android apps than go custom route. P…
"It's one of the things that doesn't make sense anymore, like cars with manual transmission." Lost me already. I enjoy manual transmissions. The function they perform which makes sense anymore is being enjoyable. And I'm allowed to thankyouverymuch. You have confused pointless to you with pointless.
They are not telling consumers what their preferences should be.