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Many displays made for this market have atrocious picture quality and no video processing features because their target customers don't care about them, they only care about brightness and longevity.
Wait so you want consumer features? Well there is the Samsung Smart TV we can offer you…
Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?
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#102I’ve kept my Samsung offline since I purchased it in 2019. I’ve kept my LG offline since I purchased it in 2016. As long as you have an AppleTV or similar connected to service your need for “smarts” it won’t be hard to leave the TV offline. (I recommend LG over Samsung - Samsung TV has native undismissable ads from 2019 still)
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They're going to get more aggressive about putting LTE/5G SIMs into the devices, maybe as eSIMs. That will make it a lot harder to disable their remote monitoring functions.
the equipment will be glued shut too, so if you want to remove the antenna you'll have to take a dremel to the back of the casing and cut out a rectangle in a specific spot so you can snip the small 50 ohm coax going to the LTE antenna too... it'll happen.
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#104Get commercial grade TVs https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-55-class-be55t-h-led-4k...
Do expect to pay more though.
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#105You could also do the same with FireTV, Chrome, or Roku, but those all have ads.
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+1, this is great advice. I've been doing the same; get an AppleTV or GoogleTV dongle and never, ever attach the LG or Samshung TV to the network. Benefits of this strategy: * So simple, even non-savvy folks can follow the rule * Protects your privacy * Eliminates an unnecessary, highly invasive, and parasitic advertising vector (ads directly from LG or Samsung) * Protects your TV performance and functionality from s…
> It's unfortunate the manufacturers are in a position where such perverse anti-customer incentives exist. Why can't we have a consumer organization that protects us from having to buy stuff that we don't want. Wouldn't it be great if any product sold in mass quantities would have to pass a consumer/environment protection committee first?
Because of too much money from corporations in politics
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#107LG pipes all visual data back to south korea.
Philips is just incompetent...
So the answer is, decline all TOS agreements, do not ever connect the TV to internet, use HDMI inout from external devices (not USB)...
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And even still, this can't be trusted...
But the fact is, that all the externals (the Rokus, Gbits, fire, who cares) -- they are all doing the same tracking.
The benefit though is that all the externals ONLY have access (AFAIK at this point) to the stream data/account.
In the case of VIZIO, they are actually watching your literal video screen and monitoring the fingerprint of the RGB layout of the image on screen in a grid and comparing it to the DB they build and ingest against their lib... and if they dont recognize it, they can still take offline screenshots and compare those to channels they ingest for content outside of cable streams...
Basically at the end of the day, you TV is as much as a source as is anything else...
Source.
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#108I’ve kept my Samsung offline since I purchased it in 2019. I’ve kept my LG offline since I purchased it in 2016. As long as you have an AppleTV or similar connected to service your need for “smarts” it won’t be hard to leave the TV offline. (I recommend LG over Samsung - Samsung TV has native undismissable ads from 2019 still)
This will work for now, but device manufacturers are working towards building out mesh networks. You may not have connected your TV to the internet, but your neighbor did, and your TV can piggy back on your neighbors connection.
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> (I recommend LG over Samsung - Samsung TV has native undismissable ads from 2019 still) Wow you get ads even when you never connected it to the internet? That's really user hostile design. If I get a tv it'll be LG anyway because they do real OLED, not that Qled stuff that Samsung does.
Sadly, Samsung is leapfrogging LG with QD OLED :-( Which is going to be better technology (brighter colors with OLED blacks) Owner of 2 LG OLEDs
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#110Jeff Geerling just did a video on a commercial tv that even has a pi in it. Maybe look into digital signage stuff or even a large computer monitor or projector.