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Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Inkscape definitely needs an UX refresh like Blender had one. It's very hard to pick up, lots of weird/arcane behavior that doesn't match other tools in the space. Happy to see that work is still being done.

It's only weird if you learn Illustrator first. For me it was extremely intuitive, and at this point the shortcuts are muscle memory. I taught it to 10 year olds for 3 years.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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> salty I don't think that means what you think it means.

A bit like the meta discussion, salty is current term in society unlike GIMP and Inkscape UI. I have a concrete questions: Why can’t a lot of FOSS projects try and distill what is good about modern UI or ideas instead of looking like a program from 10 years ago. What is the obstruction in the community getting people to work on this? Hostile power user attitudes? Simultaneously if free software advocates want it to b…

The point was, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Someone is paying one way or the other. Comparing a few volunteers to trillion dollar organizations or VC projects is a little silly, is it not?

Not to mention "modern design" is often worse in a number of ways.

Inkscape is an incredible achievement with the amount of resources it has had available. If you can do better, do so. I'm willing to bet a comparable program is 1000x more work than you anticipate.

This poster gets it:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31406310

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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post #76

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Generally these 'archaic' desktop apps have much better UIs than all the flat mobile-focused UIs that are popular these days with their oodles of wasted screen space, messy menus and unnecessary extra clicks needed for basic operations.

You said it yourself, the web apps popular. Why do you think that is? What makes them popular? Figma, canva etc are all really popular. Google docs is popular. They are all easy to use. For basic tasks we really dont need a huge expanse of menus and options all laid out like an aircraft cockpit. I would argue for a normal person that is far worse than some empty screen, which maybe hides a bit, but puts the more comm…

Inkscape is not for basic tasks, and shouldn't be dumbed-down imho. Yes, (you're about to say) software can always be improved.

I'm guessing there are other programs free through expensive that meet your basic-tasks use case. Be mindful, these are volunteers.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

#125
As a mostly web/app programmer Inkscape is a great tool to do minor alterations to icons, logos etc.

Change an icon to use fills instead of strokes? No problem. Change colours? No problem. Align the image in the middle of viewport? Remove excessive spacing? Make icons from different sources the same size? Grab a logo from a PDF? No problem.

Though my days as an aspiring graphics designer are long past, I would think that Inkscape is also a good tool for creating logos and icons. The node editor really is quite good.

For web/app design there are a lot of shortcomings though. There's no dynamic snapping, filters on groups (e.g. drop shadows), reusable components. The text editor is also very basic and counter-intuitive.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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post #80

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> salty I don't think that means what you think it means.

trying to sassily point out that you shouldn't critique free software sounds salty to me imean i really like inkscape but it seems obvious to me that being able to organize a focused, coherent, and powerful interface is a rare and subtle skill, and most people with it would not also happen to find themselves successfully herding the cats required for effective implementation in an OSS project

Complaining a program doesn't fit your use case (with a modern coat of paint to boot) is not really constructive criticism. Notably without specific solutions. In fact comes across as entitled.

Sure it can be improved, but dumbed-down and flat is not in the top 100 things I'd ask for.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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I feel the same about GDocs. And GSheets is just insane . I have mixed feelings about Google but they knock it out of the park with their drive tools.

gsheets is hilariously slow compared to excel, once you start getting into larger files.

Google docs is also reportedly terrible for working with sizeable documents.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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gsheets is hilariously slow compared to excel, once you start getting into larger files.

Gsheets offers some formulas I found quite useful and would be a pain to replicate in Excel.

Excel formulas have a horrible 1970:ish syntax. Reminds me of BASIC programming. But typically I get the job done, sometimes after several awkward intermediate steps.

I wasn't aware that Google has a different one. I have never used more than simple sums and differences in Google sheets. Can you give an example where Google offers better, incompatible functionality?

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Great to see the project moving along, but it's been a persistent feeling of mine that FOSS is starting to get left behind in the dust. The design space has been very rapidly moving towards online, live collaboration tools like Figma, Sketch, Adobe XD, etc and FOSS just has no answer for this market. Even a lot of the big name proprietary tools are finding themselves becoming rapidly obsolete in a world where people…

Hm, I don't think online tools are that far ahead. If I look at the horrible experience, which is Google docs or MS Office 365, especially their word processing parts, they lack behind soooo much compared to a tool like Libreoffice. You cannot even properly use styles and, if I got a few $currency for every silly bug I encountered in those online half-assed tools, I would probably work half time only. If that experie…

The original comment was about the design space, and I have to agree: Inkscape is stuck behind. Figma is a very high quality product, actually fewer bugs or issues than its offline counterparts.
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