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Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by digisign »

Gigachad wrote: post #10

Great to see the project moving along, but it's been a persistent feeling of mine that FOSS is starting to get left behind in the dust. The design space has been very rapidly moving towards online, live collaboration tools like Figma, Sketch, Adobe XD, etc and FOSS just has no answer for this market. Even a lot of the big name proprietary tools are finding themselves becoming rapidly obsolete in a world where people…

Sorry your use case isn't being met, but it's hardly the point of inkscape to become a saas. The typical use is, "I need to draw something on my PC."

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by eyelidlessness »

I have a lot of respect for Inkscape (the fact of its existence and ongoing development). I used it to make the main logo/home link on my personal site and for some freelance work, partly because I wanted to see how it had progressed, partly because I was between jobs and found it unreasonable to budget a commercial tool license.

I’ll be … gentle in my criticism but, I found Inkscape hard to use. I eventually found my way to do what I needed to do. But it was like relearning Adobe tools with subtly different confusions almost every step of the way. If I recall, it’s structurally very close to 1:1 with the SVG output. Which might be what users want! It might even produce better SVGs. But I found myself thinking “can I bail out to the text editor like I’m using an HTML WYSIWYG?” fairly often.

I’m sure if I used it more and got more familiar I’d know or develop instincts for where to look for … everything. But if Inkscape devs are here and want (I promise, this is intended as constructive) feedback, the learning curve was pretty steep for me.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by digisign »

foxes wrote: post #38

Why does it see so hard for FOSS to design a good looking UI. I honestly struggle visually with distinguishing what all those symbols mean. I don't use inkscape enough to memorise keyboard shortcuts. I'm sure an experienced user will come along and proclaim it just works, but as someone who wants to use it intermittently, it needs some serious refinement.

Darn tootin'! I'd ask for my money back.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by funstuff007 »

BeetleB wrote: post #48
efortis wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good employees find ways to collaborate no matter what. That’s to say that real-time collaboration is a luxury feature. Also, many projects have only one designer. Not to mention, it’s rare to find designers that work in tandem. Also, from a dev perspective having designs updates without some process is undesirable.

> Good employees find ways to collaborate no matter what. The majority are not good employees. Good employees can collaborate well with LaTeX as well. Yet over 99% of workplaces will not use LaTeX.

Of course, if an employee is crummy, you'd want to silo their work product so it did not infect the rest of the org.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by efortis »

BeetleB wrote: post #48
efortis wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good employees find ways to collaborate no matter what. That’s to say that real-time collaboration is a luxury feature. Also, many projects have only one designer. Not to mention, it’s rare to find designers that work in tandem. Also, from a dev perspective having designs updates without some process is undesirable.

> Good employees find ways to collaborate no matter what. The majority are not good employees. Good employees can collaborate well with LaTeX as well. Yet over 99% of workplaces will not use LaTeX.

Knowing LaTeX doesn't make you a good employee.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by foxes »

nerdponx wrote: post #47
foxes wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In contrast to your anecdote, I have never had issues with Google docs. It has always just worked, reasonably clean interface. I'm not sure what elaborate styling you need, but it seems serviceable for when you need a basic document which I imagine is most peoples use case. Also the collaboration is actually very useful. The same reason I use overleaf as an interface for a lot of my LaTeX projects. I can quickly shar…

G Docs is fine but very basic. Great for sharing and collaboration, not great for exercising precise control over the document.

I don’t know what precise control you need over the document in the use case served by Google docs.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by danielvaughn »

foxes wrote: post #36
zelphirkalt wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, I don't think online tools are that far ahead. If I look at the horrible experience, which is Google docs or MS Office 365, especially their word processing parts, they lack behind soooo much compared to a tool like Libreoffice. You cannot even properly use styles and, if I got a few $currency for every silly bug I encountered in those online half-assed tools, I would probably work half time only. If that experie…

In contrast to your anecdote, I have never had issues with Google docs. It has always just worked, reasonably clean interface. I'm not sure what elaborate styling you need, but it seems serviceable for when you need a basic document which I imagine is most peoples use case. Also the collaboration is actually very useful. The same reason I use overleaf as an interface for a lot of my LaTeX projects. I can quickly shar…

I feel the same about GDocs. And GSheets is just insane. I have mixed feelings about Google but they knock it out of the park with their drive tools.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by hollasch »

I will be very happy if one day I open up Inkscape and I'm not presented with a virtual sheet of paper as my starting point. I find it extraordinarily off putting to have to pretend I'm going to print out the end result.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by Minor49er »

hollasch wrote: post #58

I will be very happy if one day I open up Inkscape and I'm not presented with a virtual sheet of paper as my starting point. I find it extraordinarily off putting to have to pretend I'm going to print out the end result.

When I open up Inkscape 1.1, it prompts me for what size of image I'm going to be starting with. This can easily be changed later as well

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by foxes »

digisign wrote: post #53
foxes wrote: post #38

Why does it see so hard for FOSS to design a good looking UI. I honestly struggle visually with distinguishing what all those symbols mean. I don't use inkscape enough to memorise keyboard shortcuts. I'm sure an experienced user will come along and proclaim it just works, but as someone who wants to use it intermittently, it needs some serious refinement.

Darn tootin'! I'd ask for my money back.

You can be salty if you want but the majority of the word has moved on from archaic desktop apps.
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