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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by jseban » Sun, May 01, 2022, 2:06 PM UTC

throwaway515 wrote: post #168

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>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-…

You can also take pictures that make you look taller, with certain angles, poses etc (hint, women know and use all of these tricks).

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by yesenadam » Sun, May 01, 2022, 2:07 PM UTC

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Please refresh on the HN guidelines - your comments on this page break almost every one of the guidelines in the first half dozen paragraphs of the "In comments" section. Thanks. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by flycaliguy » Sun, May 01, 2022, 2:08 PM UTC

ellen364 wrote: post #654

jl6 wrote: post #592

I’m not here to deny that short men face challenges, the same way that anyone with any characteristic deemed negative by the prevailing dating culture faces challenges (plenty of examples to choose from - age, weight, ethnicity, wealth, disability, education, class, caste, language). I am here, though, to throw cold water on the ridiculous borderline-incel hot takes from men here who have drawn a blank on dating site…

> I didn’t read all the comments but didn’t spot a single one from anyone female. To be honest I only skimmed the article because there was so much pain and unkindness in it that I didn’t want to carefully read the whole thing. More broadly, I tend to stay out of these threads. The first of its kind that I read on HN (about divorce, I think) shocked me a little. I left with a feeling that some people commenting both…

Let’s face it, a lot of computer programmers are on the autism spectrum. Not shocking information but noteworthy in the context of dating.

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Post by klipt » Sun, May 01, 2022, 2:10 PM UTC

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Trying to play a broken game honestly, is a losing proposition. Social taboos get established to keep the winners winning. Go find yourself a gold digger. It is fine. Maybe go date women in cultures where 5.6 is not too short. Hell, I'd say that a mail order bride (more likely an economic refugee who appreciates your wealth) is still better than dying alone. It is a brutally objectifying system and you have to play t…

Human trafficking doesn't become acceptable because somehow you believe the person is getting enough out of the deal. If you have to rebrand a trafficked individual an "economic refugee" you are working on a marketing degree not a conscience. There are billions of women out there and they can't all marry the 6'6" quarterback because there are only so many of them in the universe. I find that people who claim that the…

> There are billions of women out there

Most of those are in other countries though, so you'd have to be willing to date internationally ("mail order brides"?) to meet them. And if you're American, a large number of foreigners may pretend to love you only to divorce you the moment they get a green card out of you.

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Post by satyrnein » Sun, May 01, 2022, 2:10 PM UTC

twofornone wrote: post #656

jl6 wrote: post #592

I’m not here to deny that short men face challenges, the same way that anyone with any characteristic deemed negative by the prevailing dating culture faces challenges (plenty of examples to choose from - age, weight, ethnicity, wealth, disability, education, class, caste, language). I am here, though, to throw cold water on the ridiculous borderline-incel hot takes from men here who have drawn a blank on dating site…

> As if women are a monolithic bloc conspiring against your genes. As if women are spherical horses acting out the simple laws of your evolutionary psychology This is a borderline strawman. Such conclusions are based on population level trends. And yes, just like any other sexually dimorphic species, there quite literally is a "conspiracy" against undesirable genes, though it isn't necessarily conscious or absolute.…

Is there also a "conspiracy" against overweight women? Black women? Women with disabilities? These groups also get lower than average messages and responses.

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Post by klipt » Sun, May 01, 2022, 2:14 PM UTC

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I'm a tad over 6' but girls are so used to guys lying about their hight that they usually say I'm 6'2". On multiple occasions I've had my date insist over my objection that I must be taller than that. It's not a stretch for me to imagine that widespread lying by men about their hight has actually collectively made the problem worse for men, e.g. women insisting on 6 feet because they've dating 5'10" guys claiming to…

I used to be 6'1" but have reached the age where you shrink. I am now also a tad over 6' and always answer the height question as 6'. My experience is similar to yours. Some women insist I must be 6'2". A couple of times I have just said that maybe I'm closer to 6'1" because it was close to becoming a full blown argument. Needless to say there were not 2nd dates with those women. Being at the age where you shrink is…

> They say they will never make that compromise again

Not surprising to see this sentiment from a group whose marriages all failed. I expect the biggest prediction of long term marriage success is the willingness to compromise on much bigger things than this.

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Post by 533474 » Sun, May 01, 2022, 2:17 PM UTC

jl6 wrote: post #592

I’m not here to deny that short men face challenges, the same way that anyone with any characteristic deemed negative by the prevailing dating culture faces challenges (plenty of examples to choose from - age, weight, ethnicity, wealth, disability, education, class, caste, language). I am here, though, to throw cold water on the ridiculous borderline-incel hot takes from men here who have drawn a blank on dating site…

You write a lot and yet explain your point so little

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Post by jfk13 » Sun, May 01, 2022, 2:19 PM UTC

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Thought experiment: Can you apply the same process to other characteristics? For example, is it ok to lie about your race to improve your chances with racists? Even if that works, should you?

Well since race is an arbitrary social construct with no consistent, objective definition then anyone can choose any racial identity they like without it being a lie. But when I was in the dating market I wouldn't have been willing to date a racist anyway, so the question is moot.

> anyone can choose any racial identity they like

How did that go for Rachel Dolezal?

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Post by Auracle » Sun, May 01, 2022, 2:23 PM UTC

I have a bit of a unique perspective. I lost two inches of height in high school, going from 6’ tall to 5’ 10”. I also lost two shoe sizes. Doctors didn’t take it seriously even though their own measurements showed it. It might be related to a brain injury that probably caused my low testosterone, as I’ve heard trans women can also lose height.

I’m not willing to go through that surgery to get it back, but if I were still single I’d be tempted. I miss it. To put it plainly, I felt more on top of the world - more confident.

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Post by cjbgkagh » Sun, May 01, 2022, 2:25 PM UTC

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The same random DNA lottery applies to women. I think the difference is the normalization of cruelty and inefficiencies in the dating market. I think a lot of women end up deeply unhappy but by the time they’re that age they’re largely ignored.

It applies way harder and more cruelly to women as far as dating goes. A physically unattractive man with a good personality + social skills can do very well with women. Same cannot really be said of a physically unattractive woman.

Certainly, I begrudge the normalization of cruelty for short men and unattractive women. It’s not the first time people have been cruel, it certainly won’t be the last. In my social circles those exhibiting such cruelty would be quickly ostracized. Similarly if someone was racist. For that reason it’s not something I’ve had to face but I believe people when they tell me their experiences with it.