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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by the_only_law » Sun, May 01, 2022, 1:13 PM UTC

imtringued wrote: post #647

jl6 wrote: post #592

I’m not here to deny that short men face challenges, the same way that anyone with any characteristic deemed negative by the prevailing dating culture faces challenges (plenty of examples to choose from - age, weight, ethnicity, wealth, disability, education, class, caste, language). I am here, though, to throw cold water on the ridiculous borderline-incel hot takes from men here who have drawn a blank on dating site…

I'm starting to think that those "20% of the men get 80% of the women" statistics are actually a property of dating apps rather than the real world. When you think about the food industry it is convenient as hell but it is also bad for you over the long term. Dating apps are just like that. If you are lucky and you find someone good for you. If you stick around too long you are discovering the terrible business model…

Dating apps are horrid. Reducing someone to a snippet of text and some photos. Then ofc it’s a competitive game so we’ll assign an internal ELo and punished you for not paying to win.

Unfortunately almost all my friends continue to use them. For some reasons it’s odd to find people irl within a few years of my own age, outside the online world. Meet plenty of people irl but the demographics are always very skewed offline.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by flyandscan88 » Sun, May 01, 2022, 1:18 PM UTC

Tao332 wrote: post #473

immigrantheart wrote: post #271

Just don't go for girls who want tall guys? It is not that hard? People like what they like. You can't force girls to like short men or ugly men or poor men or here. I'm speaking as 5'3" Asian man living in Western country where the majority are taller than me. Hear me out, in my country there's this dude who's tall, relatively good looking. Married someone who's not only short, but lack of 4 limbs, and not good look…

> Just don't go for girls who want tall guys? It is not that hard? This is the part where it often broke down during the fuss about "incels" a few years back. When the girls are there, suddenly the guy has a set of harsh standards that she doesn't meet. It's a supermodel at 5'11" in heels or no deal.

It's really quite simple a lot of men just want to be able to experiment sexually before they settle down. A lot of women do too. The difference is for women this is easily available in the dating world.. for men.. especially short men.. it's a distant fantasy. If these needs were met they would harbor no resentment towards women.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by the_only_law » Sun, May 01, 2022, 1:19 PM UTC

siva7 wrote: post #600

jl6 wrote: post #592

I’m not here to deny that short men face challenges, the same way that anyone with any characteristic deemed negative by the prevailing dating culture faces challenges (plenty of examples to choose from - age, weight, ethnicity, wealth, disability, education, class, caste, language). I am here, though, to throw cold water on the ridiculous borderline-incel hot takes from men here who have drawn a blank on dating site…

This! I am shocked how often men act as if they have to be someone else and then wonder why their dating life went nowhere.

> I am shocked how often men act as if they have to be someone else

Look at the advice for dating profiles on Reddit. This is apparently the ideal for online dating. Remove any eccentricities, actual hobbies, and create some contrived person with staged pics and hobbies you don’t actually care for but are more socially presentable, etc…

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by the_only_law » Sun, May 01, 2022, 1:20 PM UTC

seanp2k2 wrote: post #619

PaywallBuster wrote: post #595

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My advice to y’all is to get out of the sausage factory Certain cities/countries can be day and night! Imagine SF is one of the worst places to be for single men

San Jose is worse. They call it “Man Jose”. Plenty of profiles on dating sites won’t even consider someone outside of SF / Oakland since it’s so much trouble if the city person doesn’t have a car.

I’ve talked to plenty of women why I get out where I am. They just tend to have 5 to 40 years me.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by flyandscan88 » Sun, May 01, 2022, 1:21 PM UTC

prawn wrote: post #540

AussieWog93 wrote: post #231

All these guys in here talking about the extreme discrimination against short men, where is this occurring? I say this as someone who is 5"7. I thought it was a meme on Tinder that incels blew out of proportion, but apparently it's bigger?

I'm guessing it's in the 18-25 age bracket. People are probably more realistic after 30?

totally. no woman over 32 cares about this anymore

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by the_only_law » Sun, May 01, 2022, 1:22 PM UTC

thangalin wrote: post #158

For folks in this thread making statements such as, "I don't see how one can dictate to others what they should find attractive," the negative social stigmas towards men of short stature go far beyond physical attraction. (There's absolutely nothing wrong with women finding taller men attractive.) https://twitter.com/heightismxposed Swap "short guy" for "Jew" in the quotations from those twits that have nothing to do…

> Swap "short guy" for "Jew" in the quotations from those twits that have nothing to do with attraction:

Yes, I can do that for any statement and it has the same impact replace “people who are mean to me” with “Jews” in the sentence “I hate people who are mean to me”.

I don’t actually disagree with your content though.

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Post by ss108 » Sun, May 01, 2022, 1:23 PM UTC

cjbgkagh wrote: post #205

ponder4722 wrote: post #185

Everything we are judged on - appearance, intelligence, earning potential - is a random dice roll of DNA that none of us control. Yet people take credit (pride or shame) for these traits. Pondering this has left me more detached and unimpressed with the human society game and competition... but what else is there? What am "I", if anything, beyond the randomly assigned DNA-based traits?

The same random DNA lottery applies to women. I think the difference is the normalization of cruelty and inefficiencies in the dating market. I think a lot of women end up deeply unhappy but by the time they’re that age they’re largely ignored.

It applies way harder and more cruelly to women as far as dating goes.

A physically unattractive man with a good personality + social skills can do very well with women. Same cannot really be said of a physically unattractive woman.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by the_only_law » Sun, May 01, 2022, 1:26 PM UTC

ben7799 wrote: post #669

I'm 6'1" but I can kind of get this, however it's just one factor out of many that are like this and are made worse by the whole toxic online dating scene in general. I'm 44 and have been married for 12 years so this is beyond me but my 20s were really rough. Men are just as bad but certainly my early 20s were dominated by getting rejected for having a nerdy job (SWE) or not being muscular enough/looking by a footbal…

> I'm 6'1"

Hah we’re in the threshold where people occasionally question that number.

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Post by mxkopy » Sun, May 01, 2022, 1:27 PM UTC

0dayz wrote: post #613

jl6 wrote: post #592

I’m not here to deny that short men face challenges, the same way that anyone with any characteristic deemed negative by the prevailing dating culture faces challenges (plenty of examples to choose from - age, weight, ethnicity, wealth, disability, education, class, caste, language). I am here, though, to throw cold water on the ridiculous borderline-incel hot takes from men here who have drawn a blank on dating site…

There are some good points here (stop listening to uptight young women), but you ruin it completely by essentially ending it with a less condescending version of "have sex incel", effectively making the entire comment a very lengthy filler until that point. But yes women aren't monotone, but that's not what these men are complaining about, it's the same complaint you may face as a female but instead it might be your…

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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by jseban » Sun, May 01, 2022, 1:27 PM UTC

ummonk wrote: post #553

R0b0t1 wrote: post #511

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They adopt this belief based on repeated experience. You're going to take their entire life of observations and tell them to just try harder? What do you think they're doing?

No, I'm telling them to do something drastically different, like leveraging that western citizenship / green card or that sweet tech salary into finding a wife. It's unromantic but better than dying alone.

It really makes a lot of sense, especially for tech cities where there's literally too few women, and the men have good jobs and incomes, why not match them with some of all the women around the world who would love to have the opportunity to start a family there.

But that means the local western women would get increased competition, so that will of course needs to be shamed and frowned upon, I don't understand how it's any less romantic than the shallow greedy american women and their 6 foot 6 figures standard.