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Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by illiac786 »

robertlagrant wrote: post #400
frankfrankfrank wrote: post #333

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I propose people start reconsidering this imposed situation that exists between the people who do the work and the government, i.e. the parasitic ruling class. And to clarify, I say that as someone who is not at all “leftist” oriented, even though it may seem so at first glance of reading that to some. This situation we currently essentially globally have, at least in the west, is quite an abusive system that is real…

> that exists between the people who do the work and the government, i.e. the parasitic ruling class. And to clarify, I say that as someone who is not at all “leftist” oriented, even though it may seem so at first glance of reading that to some I definitely wouldn't say that criticising big inefficient government is a leftist talking point at all.

100% agree. reading "parasitic ruling class" makes me think of a Trumpist rather than a socialist, for sure.

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Post by chronofar »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #410
ErneX wrote: post #330

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Which community is that?

Ever heard of locals? You can't imagine how much better Rome has been in these last two years without Americans coming to colonize our historical districts. It's not entirely Americans fault, they do not belong here, don't know the language, the traditions, but they gather together all in the same place and suddenly it's not Rome anymore and obviously prices skyrocket up to the point that locals can't afford to live…

Big cities are by nature cosmopolitan, it’s very strange to say only some people “belong” and others don’t. Would you prefer the world isolate into pockets of belonging based on generational inheritance as it has been and we crank back globalization? Certainly there are growing pains, but I would view more globalization as the direction we want to go.

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by outcoldman »

xtracto wrote: post #81
outcoldman wrote: post #64

I know some people are very excited about that, and some think that is going to be a new norm. I have not worked for the corps for at least 4-5 years, but before that I always assumed there are only small amount of people who can really work for company remotely. I definitely saw people calling that they are going to work from home, but saw very little work to be done that day. Which probably means that people used t…

>You are at new place, you going to work like 4-6 hours instead of 8-9 hours. I remember some studies mentioning that the real productive time in a daily 8 hr shiFt was 4-6 hours. If that's so, then it's completely doable. Hopefully someone has a fresh link to one of those studies.

Just to clarify the hours of productivity. I meant the person will allocate only 4-6 hours instead of 8-9 hours, and most of the time will be on FB, reading news, and spending time in chats. And whatever is left going to use for some work :)

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Post by smeej »

Coordinating in Pacific Standard Time is really weird. Right now, the Pacific Time zone is on Daylight time, so they'd need to calculate a one-hour offset for everything, even in the main office.

Coordinating on Pacific Time would be less weird.

But, as I learned working at a company that's truly international, coordinating on UTC is better. Each employee only has to know the offset between their own time and UTC. They know when any local Daylight Saving laws shift them relative to UTC, and it's extremely easy to look it up if they forget. It's also extremely easy to look up the UTC offset anywhere you may travel.

Picking Pacific Time, and specifically Pacific Standard Time, is a weird choice.

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Post by Aeolun »

umutseven92 wrote: post #286
Aeolun wrote: post #196

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I find it hard to imagine any country actually cares, and even if they do, I find it hard to imagine they could reasonably check whether anyone is there for tourism, or just to work.

They don't care if you are visiting for a week, but for 90+ day stays they definitely care.

Is there any country that gives out 90+ day tourist visa? Obviously you still have to follow the rest of immigration law (so no overstaying your welcome).

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Post by ericmay »

oxfordmale wrote: post #303
joshvm wrote: post #255

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You can visit for 90 days but what you're allowed to do is restricted to tourism and "temporary business". The US substantial presence test is actually something like 31 days in the current year, and ~180 calculated as a weighted sum of presence over all visits in the preceeding few years. That's just to determine if you should pay tax, and note that vacations to the US contribute. Whether you can legally work in the…

90 days is the number agreed upon by company lawyers. Company lawyers do not have a sense of adventure, so this is a relatively watertight figure for most countries in the world and not dependent on your honesty.

I'm not sure when this 90-day rule was written, but I imagine it was written in a time before now with high-performance laptops, video conferencing, common jet travel, and people wanting to work 30 days here, 90 days there, 120 days over there, etc.

This should be revisited. Also I think this is a good example of the need to have expiration dates on new laws and regulations. This should be something that expires and has to be changed to reflect how people live today.

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Post by Aeolun »

wccrawford wrote: post #425
dinvlad wrote: post #208

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Depends on the company, I think. Some companies are geographically remote, so that's not quite possible. For others yes, things like WeWork exist although might be a little pricey (but probably worth it!). Or just a warehouse-type location equipped with temporary walls that could be rented too :-)

Every picture I've ever seen of a place like WeWork has shown an open floor plan. They might have offices, but they're going to be extra expensive. And since there's no such thing as "your desk" there, you will never feel at ease. Every day might bring someone that's incredibly annoying, and collaborating with your coworkers would mean either annoying others or booking a conference room. In the end, it's easier to co…

Yeah. My point in organizing it between the remote workers themselves was kind of so you could bypass places like WeWork.

The idea is to have a building/location with actual private offices after all.

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Post by timmg »

ultimoo wrote: post #166

>Most companies don’t do this because of the mountain of complexities with taxes, payroll, and time zone availability, but I hope we can open-source a solution so other companies can offer this flexibility as well. I think this is a genius growth play for Airbnb. Make it easier for _other_ companies to operate in a similar way so that _their_ employees can travel and live in an... Airbnb! Next, they should lobby to g…

> I think everyone wins here.

One theory I have (and it may be wrong): is that part of the rise we've seen in housing prices is due to WFH and AirBnB.

Lots of people I've worked with who were WFH in the pandemic would spend a week (or a month) in a rental while they work, here and there. And during that time, their house/apartment would be empty.

Imagine everyone does that for (say) 3 weeks a year. That's a 6% increase in "housing usage". A 6% shock to the housing market is significant when supplies can't react quickly to the rise in demand.

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Post by illiac786 »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #362
lultimouomo wrote: post #268

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I live in a city that is a major tourist destination worldwide. Tourism has always been a blessing and a curse; shops always suffered a pressure to become tourist oriented; some big buildings were converted to hotels. With AirBnB the problem has expanded massively. I cannot find a 3-room office that is not miles away from the city center because everything that size is an AirBnB. An employee I just hired that moved h…

Yep, i live in a country with massive housing issues in our cities (well... like most other countries), and banning airbnb is mentioned a couple of times a week now in mainstream media. And if the large cities are a problem, there still are some new building projects done here, if you want to massively overpay an apartment,... the rural areas near tourist areas are even worse... 20km from the mountains and 20km from…

I think banning airbnb outright is not a good idea. They should limit the number of days per year a place can be rented, simple. Then you only rent if it's really your home and you're not there, because otherwise it's not worth it. Might be a pain to control across multiple renting platforms, but it's possible and if you catch a couple of persons and condemn them to high fines, this will make the rounds and other short term renters will stop.

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

chronofar wrote: post #452
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #410

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever heard of locals? You can't imagine how much better Rome has been in these last two years without Americans coming to colonize our historical districts. It's not entirely Americans fault, they do not belong here, don't know the language, the traditions, but they gather together all in the same place and suddenly it's not Rome anymore and obviously prices skyrocket up to the point that locals can't afford to live…

Big cities are by nature cosmopolitan, it’s very strange to say only some people “belong” and others don’t. Would you prefer the world isolate into pockets of belonging based on generational inheritance as it has been and we crank back globalization? Certainly there are growing pains, but I would view more globalization as the direction we want to go.

> Big cities are by nature cosmopolitan

but most rich tech workers, especially from US, especially from SV, are not.

It's time to accept it.

We don't want them.

Not at this rate, not at these (their) conditions.

They only bring problems.

One thing is immigrants coming to work, another thing entirely is people that go somewhere because "it's cheap" or "it's beautiful" but work and pay taxes elsewhere.

They also have the habit of paying more than the average prices, so housing becomes more expensive, activities have to pay higher rents to survive or adapt to the kind of entertainment that the "new people" like, which is more often than not not what they wanted to do, people that used to live near their workplace had to move elsewhere because they could not afford to live in the district anymore, they end up closing shops and move their activities elsewhere (people like to have a life, besides work and commute) disrupting the life of many other that used to go there. So when these people start buying drugs, dealers compete for their money and criminality rate increase.

Last but not least, not being part of the community makes them detached.

This[1] had never happened before Americans invaded Trastevere.

Of course this is in general, individually people are perfectly fine, but this trend is killing the fabric of cities with centuries of history, for nothing.

Cosmpolitan it's not synonym for "colony".

[1] https://www.thelocal.it/20220210/us-tourists-serving-life-fo...

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