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Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by Aeolun »

dinvlad wrote: post #87
carlivar wrote: post #71

I like that he specifically mentioned open floor plans. This is the number one reason why I don't want to return to the office. I kinda do want to go back. But I need my privacy and some quiet. I can't do the open floor plan ever again.

Can't agree more. Privacy of a small room but having people around when you _need_ them is the best of both worlds.

It must be possible for all the remote workers to gather together and actually rent/make an office like this right (with like, 10 people in, 10 small offices and a shared lunchroom/kitchen)? If you’re not looking for a bunch of profit the rent would sort of remain bearable too.

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Post by Aeolun »

abledon wrote: post #79
carlivar wrote: post #71

I like that he specifically mentioned open floor plans. This is the number one reason why I don't want to return to the office. I kinda do want to go back. But I need my privacy and some quiet. I can't do the open floor plan ever again.

you don't like doing PDD? Panopticon-driven-development?

Oh yes, the boss can sit in the center and see everyone, and everyone can see the boss, but nobody can see each other. This is perfect.

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Post by HALtheWise »

bradlys wrote: post #17

Sounds nice in some ways. The stickler here is the focus on working in PST still. You’re not gonna get to travel to the EU and work async it sounds like. Which - while making sense - isn’t going to make a good portion of people who want this particularly happy. After all - remote but stuck in one time zone for working hours isn’t really a huge win. It’s dangling a carrot. In other news - sounds like comp is going dow…

I wonder if we could see areas of major cities cropping up that operate on a different timezone's schedule, similar to how "chinatowns" formed in many cities. For example, having a neighborhood in a major European city that operates on Pacific time (restaurants, streetlights, noise complaints, etc) could make it easier for anyone that's working remotely in the target timezone.

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by jltsiren »

asiachick wrote: post #133
vmception wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of founders and their friends are using the office as a replacement for a healthier separate social circle and social life that they lack (a lot of people lack that, and they do too), so for them they're really just hanging out and like the potential for “increased collaboration” for that reason

(1) Healthiest = great social circle at work that bleeds into social circle out of work (2) Less healthy = great social circle at work, separate great social circle outside of work (3) Even less healthy = no social circle at work (just a job), great social circle outside work (4) Worse = great social circle at work, no social circle outside of work (I never seen this situation. If you have a great social circle at wo…

(4) is common among people who move internationally more than once or twice. Making friends as an adult is already difficult, and knowing that you will move on after a couple of years makes it even more difficult. You have a reason to socialize with your coworkers, so they will become the center of your new social life. If you moved to a popular expat destination, you may be able to find other expats who are similarly disconnected from normal life. Beyond that, making friends requires crossing cultural barriers, which takes a lot of effort and extraversion.

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Post by carlivar »

missedthecue wrote: post #130
ajkjk wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obligatory reminder that this stance isn't universal and some people do like open floor plans (such as myself).

I do too. I think a lot of people who spend work hours browsing the web don't like them.

Found the management.

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Post by Aeolun »

jimkleiber wrote: post #53

> While you’ll be responsible for getting proper work authorization, we’re actively partnering with local governments to make it easier for more people to travel and work around the world. Today, 20+ countries offer remote work visas, and more are in the works. While working from different locations isn’t possible for everyone, I hope everyone can benefit from this flexibility when the time is right. I think currentl…

I find it hard to imagine any country actually cares, and even if they do, I find it hard to imagine they could reasonably check whether anyone is there for tourism, or just to work.

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Post by toraway1234 »

sateesh wrote: post #142
galaxyLogic wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went to this office one day a week. But guys in the neighboring cubicles were playing soccer. Not all day but during times of the day. They seriously had a soccer-ball they played with. I didn't know if I should laugh or cry but it was definitely a detriment to productivity. Collaboration. Soccer yeah

You could request them to not to play and be quiet, right.

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Post by mdoms »

cwilkes wrote: post #173
outcoldman wrote: post #64

I know some people are very excited about that, and some think that is going to be a new norm. I have not worked for the corps for at least 4-5 years, but before that I always assumed there are only small amount of people who can really work for company remotely. I definitely saw people calling that they are going to work from home, but saw very little work to be done that day. Which probably means that people used t…

“I saw very little work being done” That’s an incentive problem not a “be in the office” problem. Or you’ve hired lazy bums. Or the work isn’t interesting enough. If the people are screwing around then fire them. More than likely the job is dull or not challenging or not rewarding enough. That’s a call for the company to step up their game and bring in A level talent. Or don’t and keep on getting the C team that’s on…

> If the people are screwing around then fire them

You try firing someone in markets like NZ, Aus, lots of parts of Europe etc. Some people have for sure identified remote work as a meal ticket for life, it's frustrating.

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by lostcolony »

sateesh wrote: post #144
asiachick wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(1) Healthiest = great social circle at work that bleeds into social circle out of work (2) Less healthy = great social circle at work, separate great social circle outside of work (3) Even less healthy = no social circle at work (just a job), great social circle outside work (4) Worse = great social circle at work, no social circle outside of work (I never seen this situation. If you have a great social circle at wo…

I would put your choice (2) to be the healthiest. In my experience when you change jobs the social circle from work gradually atrophies.

100%. I've had...three people in my life who I stayed close to after changing jobs. Two of them I worked with in two different workplaces, which I think is a large reason why (the relationship necessarily was > a single workplace), but even then, I'm not working with them, have in fact moved across the country from them, and so the relationships have atrophied some (though we still talk periodically).

The third I married.

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