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Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by spaniard89277 »

paulcole wrote: post #132
pkdpic wrote: post #128

Ive worked for a coding bootcamp since before covid. We used to be in person only and Ive gotten to see the ups and downs of the full-remote transition for at this point hundreds of jr devs entering the field. Long story short everything I thought would get negative blowback or go up in flames didnt. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and it never does. Our students work through around 1000 hours of computer s…

> I still can't believe there's no catch Do you believe that remote work is a net gain for society but is a net negative for many individuals?

I think it will be worse for people who uses their work as main source of connections with other people. I guess society should take loneliness seriously for once, as it has a very negative impact on people's health.

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

imiric wrote: post #279
berkes wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, the entire city. In e.g. Amsterdam (a relatively tiny area, high tourism density) or Venice, in areas things have been pushed over. It's a spiral. E.g. something simple as "pharmacies" or "supermarkets". They leave/close because of less demand. Which decreases liveability, causing more locals to move out, causing more such businesses to close etc. These effects come next to "increasing house prices". It reall…

> You are certainly no longer allowed to have AirBnBs for the sole purpose of renting out to AirBnb. That's a ridiculous requirement. Owning real estate for the sole purpose of renting has been an income source for ever. Just because Airbnb exploded this practice in popularity doesn't give governments the right to say what purpose owners can use their property for. If Airbnb is causing issues, then address those spec…

> doesn't give governments the right to say what purpose owners can use their property for.

of course the government is gonna govern.

quoting you here

"governments told what purpose owners can use their property for, for ever"

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Post by wingerlang »

noduerme wrote: post #307

Sooo.. w/o getting into my history too deeply, my ex and I left the US in 2006 and worked freelance/remote. Wired did an article about us in 2008 living in a solar van when that was, like, unheard of. It seems like every few years a new batch of people want to try this approach, and it's always popular with the press to write about it. Sometimes it works out. I think it's a great way to live, and it teaches you a lot…

Did you have any thoughts about the home owners around you while you were doing the same thing?

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by jdrc »

pkdpic wrote: post #128

Ive worked for a coding bootcamp since before covid. We used to be in person only and Ive gotten to see the ups and downs of the full-remote transition for at this point hundreds of jr devs entering the field. Long story short everything I thought would get negative blowback or go up in flames didnt. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and it never does. Our students work through around 1000 hours of computer s…

i think academia's future is remote. school too - especially if people want to travel nomadically.

Academia has actually had this model for a long time - people moving with their families for postdocs every few years and keeping in touch remotely with old colleagues

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Post by dragonwriter »

imiric wrote: post #279
berkes wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, the entire city. In e.g. Amsterdam (a relatively tiny area, high tourism density) or Venice, in areas things have been pushed over. It's a spiral. E.g. something simple as "pharmacies" or "supermarkets". They leave/close because of less demand. Which decreases liveability, causing more locals to move out, causing more such businesses to close etc. These effects come next to "increasing house prices". It reall…

> You are certainly no longer allowed to have AirBnBs for the sole purpose of renting out to AirBnb. That's a ridiculous requirement. Owning real estate for the sole purpose of renting has been an income source for ever. Just because Airbnb exploded this practice in popularity doesn't give governments the right to say what purpose owners can use their property for. If Airbnb is causing issues, then address those spec…

> Just because Airbnb exploded this practice in popularity doesn’t give governments the right to say what purpose owners can use their property for.

That’s true.

The power of government to govern does not originate with AirBnB, but predates it considerably.

The particular use of the power may be responsive to situations created by AirBnB, though.

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Post by zengineer »

I hope they add a "remote working approved" tag and filter, just like the "superhost".

I have been working remotely since almost a year now in several European countries and to filter out AirBnBs, which offer a decent desk and have stable internet takes hours. The "workstation" filter can not be trusted and neither the "has Wifi", which doesn't say anything about the quality.

An internet speed test should be required to be done by the host. This way I can avoid having to ask about the internet every time before booking - which takes sometimes half a day for getting a response.

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Post by michaelt »

throwaway1777 wrote: post #161
psyclobe wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate open floor plans! Give me a proper cube, yes SPEND the money on your workers, don't just cheap out and throw in a picnic table in a big room and call it 'Collaboration', BS!

If you’ve ever been to AirBnb’s office you’d know it’s nothing like that. The AirBnb office is fairly open but it’s way nicer than most people’s homes.

Eh, I'll admit [1] looks very architect-designed but it seems more about looks than practicality.

Where are the external monitors? The laptop chargers? The plants? The photos of family? The screens in meeting rooms? The whiteboards?

They're missing all of those, there's a guy trying to work on a laptop while in a hammock?

I'll stick with my home office, thanks.

[1] https://officesnapshots.com/2019/01/29/airbnb-headquarters-s...

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Post by noduerme »

entropy_ wrote: post #318
carabiner wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What?

As far as I can understand it: 1 - I'm proud of having cheated Airbnb out of their commission when helping me find housing so I could live like a hipster 2 - I hate living next to Airbnb hipsters Needless to say: not a lot of coherent thought in that comment...

Eh, no. Airbnb rentals don't go for 3-6 months. (So what I was doing wouldn't have even been possible via their website). I wasn't "living like a hipster", I wasn't on a work-vacation. There was no "cheating" involved, since all the people who post on Airbnb also post on other websites, local and international. Airbnb just had a nicer map.

It ain't cheating Airbnb if the landlord is happy to cut out the middleman. And when I stay in a place I learn the language and live there and try to integrate into society. I'm not there to party for a weekend. What I'm referring to with the hollowing out of city centers like Lisbon, Prague, Amsterdam... people like me renting there for 3-6 months are not a threat to people who live and work there, because I'm negotiating close-to standard price for a furnished apartment (and the owner knows that the stability of being paid up front makes up for the extra they might make if their Airbnb were booked every day). So no, I wouldn't be treating the place as a tourist destination or undermining the locals, or partying and reducing their quality of life in their own places next door.

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Post by ycombinator_acc »

renewiltord wrote: post #277
pvtmert wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This only works if you are holder of passport of the origin country. As a third world country national, I cannot legally work anywhere except the country I got my work visa. PS: Even if company is multinational corporation.

No one’s gonna know if you are a tourist in Japan for 90 d and you work there remotely. Literally no one. No one will know.

Border control and ice will know.

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Post by ErneX »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #316
ultimoo wrote: post #166

>Most companies don’t do this because of the mountain of complexities with taxes, payroll, and time zone availability, but I hope we can open-source a solution so other companies can offer this flexibility as well. I think this is a genius growth play for Airbnb. Make it easier for _other_ companies to operate in a similar way so that _their_ employees can travel and live in an... Airbnb! Next, they should lobby to g…

> I think everyone wins here. except for the cities flooded by tech workers that do not belong to the community. Like it's happening to Barcelona.

Which community is that?
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