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Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by throwaway1777 »

psyclobe wrote: post #125
carlivar wrote: post #71

I like that he specifically mentioned open floor plans. This is the number one reason why I don't want to return to the office. I kinda do want to go back. But I need my privacy and some quiet. I can't do the open floor plan ever again.

I hate open floor plans! Give me a proper cube, yes SPEND the money on your workers, don't just cheap out and throw in a picnic table in a big room and call it 'Collaboration', BS!

If you’ve ever been to AirBnb’s office you’d know it’s nothing like that. The AirBnb office is fairly open but it’s way nicer than most people’s homes.

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Post by ggm »

Somewhere in between a pay grade based on scarcity, and S.F. norms, and a pay grade based on Ross Perot's IBM model of "feed 'em peanuts and sack at will" is a happy medium.

I don't personally think that US pay for work done in Bali as a non-dom is sustainable, but paying Indonesian rate for work towards US profit is just as unviable.

Whats the happy medium?

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by DevKoala »

bradlys wrote: post #21
DevKoala wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t that good? High concentration of capital in specific geo’s isn’t that great either.

None of it really matters tbh. Without proper taxation and building policy - it’s all moot. Small town with a bunch of millionaires is just as bad as a big city with them. Policy is what will dictate whether or not this is good and that’s not within the hands of any company. That’s up to the federal, state, and local governments. (Of which are all fucked - of course)

From my experience, it is usually the non millionaires that are moving out of the expensive areas.

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by vineyardmike »

wolverine876 wrote: post #84
muglug wrote: post #6

If this becomes the norm then it's the end of SF as a tech hub. A big move for a company paying the sorts of salaries it does.

> it's the end of SF as a tech hub People love to predict this, they seek it. Perhaps it feels like pushing against some establishment (when it's serving another establishment). It's trendy now, which affects people who follow trends, but trends change fast. Talented people want to be around other talented people; smart, intellectually curious people want to live where there are great restaurants, arts, beauty, sophi…

I agree. But some people will totally leave, which will be great for those of us that like it here, since the prices should go down.

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by [deleted] »

asiachick wrote: post #133
vmception wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of founders and their friends are using the office as a replacement for a healthier separate social circle and social life that they lack (a lot of people lack that, and they do too), so for them they're really just hanging out and like the potential for “increased collaboration” for that reason

(1) Healthiest = great social circle at work that bleeds into social circle out of work (2) Less healthy = great social circle at work, separate great social circle outside of work (3) Even less healthy = no social circle at work (just a job), great social circle outside work (4) Worse = great social circle at work, no social circle outside of work (I never seen this situation. If you have a great social circle at wo…

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Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by ultimoo »

>Most companies don’t do this because of the mountain of complexities with taxes, payroll, and time zone availability, but I hope we can open-source a solution so other companies can offer this flexibility as well.

I think this is a genius growth play for Airbnb. Make it easier for _other_ companies to operate in a similar way so that _their_ employees can travel and live in an... Airbnb! Next, they should lobby to get US and EU to make short-term "tourism + wfh" visas more accessible so that this becomes even more popular. I think everyone wins here.

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by wolverine876 »

vineyardmike wrote: post #164
wolverine876 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's the end of SF as a tech hub People love to predict this, they seek it. Perhaps it feels like pushing against some establishment (when it's serving another establishment). It's trendy now, which affects people who follow trends, but trends change fast. Talented people want to be around other talented people; smart, intellectually curious people want to live where there are great restaurants, arts, beauty, sophi…

I agree. But some people will totally leave, which will be great for those of us that like it here, since the prices should go down.

Be careful: Perception is reality, and becomes reality. It's self-fulfilling.

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Post by c0nducktr »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #146
asiachick wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(1) Healthiest = great social circle at work that bleeds into social circle out of work (2) Less healthy = great social circle at work, separate great social circle outside of work (3) Even less healthy = no social circle at work (just a job), great social circle outside work (4) Worse = great social circle at work, no social circle outside of work (I never seen this situation. If you have a great social circle at wo…

Your rankings make no sense to me. I don't understand why you deem someone who has separate social circles inside and outside of work as "less healthy".

Agreed. This appears to be the most best, and also most resilient option.

God forbid you run into issues with your outside social circle, you've still got your work circle, and the other way around.

I've only had option #1 happen once, and it was when I encouraged a few friends to apply at my company, and even then, it didn't really merge the social circles, I just had some people which were in both. I wouldn't do it again, either.

It's great to have multiple groups of friends, they don't all need to be related through work.

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Post by andrei_says_ »

cube00 wrote: post #80
carlivar wrote: post #71

I like that he specifically mentioned open floor plans. This is the number one reason why I don't want to return to the office. I kinda do want to go back. But I need my privacy and some quiet. I can't do the open floor plan ever again.

It always annoyed me that they couldn't even be honest and say it was save rent, they had to make it seem like open floor plan was a positive thing because it "increases collaboration" It's not enough you want to be cheap but you want to make it seem like you're doing it for our benefit.

Announcing that it’s “for our benefit” over our screaming about how much we hate it and how harmful it is to comfort, productivity and deep work.

It is beyond insulting.

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