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My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is term is commonly misused as it originally referred to countries beyond the Cold War's NATO/USSR denominations. Today the parent likely refers to a country in the global south or a "developing" nation. I'm from what used to be a third-world country in the strict sense of term, I'd now refer to my country as a country in the global south.

What’s the “global south?”

Latin America, Asia, Africa, and Oceania. HTH.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #80

Stupid question, but if your hard drive cannot write 25Gbit/s , how is it handled? I don't knwo anything about SSD so maybe 25Gbit/s is easily achievable, just talking from my experience of copying from a USB Drive to my local disk.

Hard drives don't go anywhere close, but SSD do. What is important to understand is that 25 Gbps Internet does not mean you copy from a server on Internet to your local SSD at that speed, that 25 Gbps is just the connection between your router and the ISP. On your side you may have multiple computers, on the ISP there are multiple peerings with other networks, you may reach and aggregate bandwidth of 25 Gbps but not really a point to point one, so your SSD performance is not the top factor.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is term is commonly misused as it originally referred to countries beyond the Cold War's NATO/USSR denominations. Today the parent likely refers to a country in the global south or a "developing" nation. I'm from what used to be a third-world country in the strict sense of term, I'd now refer to my country as a country in the global south.

What’s the “global south?”

It's basically a way to say 'third world' without the baggage of cold war politics embedded in it.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in a top 10 most expensive city in the world (Canada) and the best I can get for $50 is 80 Mbps (and even that is only available as a promotion that you can't get by simply going to the ISP's website and buying a plan).

I live in Germany. Enjoying 10 Mbit/s downstrean and 1 Mbit/s upstream. For 30 Euros per month. 80 would be like heaven for me.

Well, elsewhere in Germany you can get 2.5GBit/s fiber...

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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I have a few different comments that came to mind from this post.

The first one being ADSL/xDSL. ADSL is still very much alive in rural America. My sister pays about $50/mo for 6 Mbps ADSL.

Having worked as a telephone tech, I can tell you that many people would be pretty surprised by the speeds that DSL is capable of. With a a new/good condition cable, and a VDSL2, or the like modem, even without bonding, you can exceed 100 Mbps. With a shorter line, and bonding, you can go well beyond that.

The mention of PPPoE is interesting, because I recall having to use proprietary dialer software back in the day, before Windows and Linux baked in PPPoE, and home routers really weren't a thing. One would think PPPoE has gone by the wayside, but the aforementioned sister is forced to use it with Frontier. Trying to disable all the routing functions on the ISP-provided router, and get creds to setup PPPoE on a customer provided router, is somewhat of a pain.

You'd think we moved passed it all with fiber, but I can personally say that AT&T does not work this way. They actually use 802.1x authentication on their network, where their gateway they force you to use has the certificates built in. It really then comes down to being only able to set up a 1:1 NAT with a public IP, but then your traffic is still routed through their gateway, not a true network bridge.

Having AT&T even set generic PTR records for the /64 they assign you is unheard of, let alone getting them to delegate to you. It's a fact of life in the US, where few ISPs can actually operate in the broadband market, short of the megacorps.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I moved into a newly build house in 2014 and was shocked to learn that all the houses only had basic copper telephone lines and Sat-TV. The whole field was empty and they had to do the groundwork for the copper cables anyway. I was shocked when the Telekom person, who connected my then 16MBit/s ADSL contract I had to move with, told me that the next TAL (connection point; Teilnehmer Anschluss Leitung, I don’t know th…

What a pain in the arse! Just fyi as I know you aren’t a native speaker, it’s ‘chip in’, if you were native I’d assume a typo, probably is for you too, but it’s a phrase easy to mishear and when I was learning a second language I appreciated these corrections.

Argh yes I’m not a native speaker but in this case it was a typo ;) Thanks

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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In the linked blog post to init7 (translated), it says this: “Backhaul means the return of the data to the backbone, i.e. to the connecting area of the network. The backbone connects the various subnets. Each Fiber7 pop is newly connected with at least 100Gbit/sec backhaul capacity, which corresponds to 10 to 50 times over-provision” Is that a normal over provisioning rate for an internet connection? It seems like ea…

I’m sure if they are a decent ISP and observe constant congestion on an uplink they would just upgrade it (e.g. create a port channel with two 100G links).

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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I'm thrilled with my gigabit fiber from Sonic. I wonder how many of their customers even get the full gigabit though; if they are connecting with WiFi they almost certainly aren't. And even ethernet is still not reliably gigabit in homes with older wiring. But this 25gbit is in another category. I'm impressed the Ookla speedtest server can deliver 25Gbit. The 25gbit network card he mentions costs $400-$500, that's ch…

>I'm impressed the Ookla speedtest server can deliver 25Gbit.

It's not surprising since is testing against his ISP's test server.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Swiss 26 Gbit/s symmetrical… while in US getting 1Gbit/s down is a minor miracle and anything resembling that up is downright impossible. My area in a major VHCOL metro area has a wonderful choice of 1 cable provider and maybe 2 fixed cell providers (may be because they can’t tell you if the tower will give you a decent speed until you unpack and install the system). How US gets so little for so much spent is really…

The US has one of the fastest average internet speed in the world. It beats pretty much every other western country, with only Denmark and Monaco being ahead. https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#fixed

Umm.. no

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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I have a few different comments that came to mind from this post. The first one being ADSL/xDSL. ADSL is still very much alive in rural America. My sister pays about $50/mo for 6 Mbps ADSL. Having worked as a telephone tech, I can tell you that many people would be pretty surprised by the speeds that DSL is capable of. With a a new/good condition cable, and a VDSL2, or the like modem, even without bonding, you can ex…

Where I receive live an ADSL line maxes out at 6/0.75Mbps and it's painfully slow, especially if you need to upload anything. It's frustrating seeing everyone else with higher speeds when my location will probably never get broadband in my lifetime ignoring something like starlink.
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