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My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by kayoone »

larusso wrote: post #186
baybal2 wrote: post #150

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> Being from a third world country, I completely agree with you on how technological investment can change lives. Being from a soon north korea 2.0 to be (russia,) I can say it was my surprise to see Internet being so bad across the developed countries when I was travelling in the previous decade. Canada - ridiculously expensive traffic, Germany - no comments, UK - sometimes good, sometimes 128kbps DSL, USA - 20mbps…

As a German I weep and cry. 25Gbit/s seems so so far off. And I live in a major city. I only get 150Mbit VDSL at the moment. I have no cable connection so one of these to get the theoretical 1Gbit/s download is out of the question.

Gigabit internet is quite widely available through different cable providers in Germany nowadays. Also the country side seems to be moving up, the very rural place where I grew up (and where my mom still lives) had a max of 2Mbps DSL for the last 20(!) years and now the whole area is being upgraded to fibre and will enjoy 10/1Gbps by the end of the year!

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by calcifer »

411111111111111 wrote: post #161
user- wrote: post #137

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> The last spiderman was something around 200gb That is not true at all? Spider man was like 70gb , miles morales was like 40gb

i could definitely be wrong, I thought i made that clear from my phrasing. A cursory google does seem like it was closer to my number then yours though. Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War Cross gen bundle / Ultimate edition - 283.5 GB minimum Spider-Man Miles Morales Ultimate Edition - 170.5 GB minimum Hitman 3 - 105.1 GB minimum Destiny 2 - 101.1 GB minimum The Last of Us 2 - 93.37 GB minimum

Those are uncompressed sizes, not download.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by moondev »

101008 wrote: post #80

Stupid question, but if your hard drive cannot write 25Gbit/s , how is it handled? I don't knwo anything about SSD so maybe 25Gbit/s is easily achievable, just talking from my experience of copying from a USB Drive to my local disk.

I believe the transfer will simply be bottlenecked, like running a raspberry pi from an sd card.

To fully utilize the connection you can use storage backed by memory. For example ESXi allows you to back a vm by a "virtual pmem" disk that uses a chunk of your host system dram

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by oriolid »

411111111111111 wrote: post #161
user- wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The last spiderman was something around 200gb That is not true at all? Spider man was like 70gb , miles morales was like 40gb

i could definitely be wrong, I thought i made that clear from my phrasing. A cursory google does seem like it was closer to my number then yours though. Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War Cross gen bundle / Ultimate edition - 283.5 GB minimum Spider-Man Miles Morales Ultimate Edition - 170.5 GB minimum Hitman 3 - 105.1 GB minimum Destiny 2 - 101.1 GB minimum The Last of Us 2 - 93.37 GB minimum

Installed or download size? IDK about PS5, but many Steam games seem to do some decompressing during installation.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by lotsofpulp »

denysvitali wrote: post #200
lukasLansky wrote: post #197

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My ethernet is also capped at 1 Gb/s for most of my computers. The 10 Gb/s connection is still useful as it makes sure that things running at different devices won't affect each other. Streaming won't affect games won't affect work-related video calls. It's great.

Yes, in that sense you'd have a "dedicated" 1Gbps for each device. But realistically, how often do you need that? I don't know about you, but the only time I would reach such a peak would be in case I download something huge while watching Netflix at 4k (which I don't have) and while at the same time downloading an update for my phone and a game for the PS5 (which I don't own). I would argue that the likelihood of al…

Perhaps we would not have to rely on other entities such as Apple/Google/Microsoft/Dropbox/etc to serve our content if we had decent upload bandwidth at home.

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Post by cromulent »

sschueller wrote: post #184
101008 wrote: post #71

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Being from a third world country, I completely agree with you on how technological investment can change lives. Even a low speed connection in a rural zone can achieve wonderful things. But I really wonder what was your prototype that needed that speed connection and that wouldn't work with something slower. Can you share, at least vaguely, what was your work?

Technically Switzerland is a third world country according to the original definition.

And Finland may soon be moving from third world to first world.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by kbenson »

jonnylynchy wrote: post #7

On behalf of all tech-minded Americans, I would like to say... I hate you. I just got a notice in the mail that my ISP is "upgrading" their network so now I can pay $200 USD/month to get a whopping 2gbps, which I actually thought was pretty amazing until I read your post. So, thanks. In all seriousness, congrats! You made a good case for why one would need that much bandwidth. Also, we need to catch up here. :)

There are other ISPs in the states that are much more competitive (I work at one). Unfortunately, if you're not in a fairly dense area, the chances they can deliver to you is minimal, since building your own network is expensive.

For example, we offer $40 service, and if you're in our historical areas that's 1Gbit symmetrical, and if you're in newer areas we've turned up in the last year that's 10Gbit symmetrical.

We're expanding (as I expect most ISPs that can undercut the major players that much are), but it requires actually stringing fiber through neighborhoods on poles, so it takes a while (but that can be scaled...).

If you don't have telephone poles, it's much harder/more expensive to build out an area, so often those are skipped (at least initially) as areas cheaper to deliver to are prioritized. The is unfortunately a lot of new development, as they'll build neighborhood with underground utilities and pre-wire AT&T and Comcast, making it hard for others to deliver to the area without a lot of cost and work (trenching).

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Post by mardifoufs »

sologoub wrote: post #199

Swiss 26 Gbit/s symmetrical… while in US getting 1Gbit/s down is a minor miracle and anything resembling that up is downright impossible. My area in a major VHCOL metro area has a wonderful choice of 1 cable provider and maybe 2 fixed cell providers (may be because they can’t tell you if the tower will give you a decent speed until you unpack and install the system). How US gets so little for so much spent is really…

The US has one of the fastest average internet speed in the world. It beats pretty much every other western country, with only Denmark and Monaco being ahead.

https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#fixed

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Post by goatsi »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #142
geoka9 wrote: post #130

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I'm in a top 10 most expensive city in the world (Canada) and the best I can get for $50 is 80 Mbps (and even that is only available as a promotion that you can't get by simply going to the ISP's website and buying a plan).

Have you looked at smaller ISPs? I live in rural BC and I'm was able to get 80Mb for $35 using a no-name internet only provider with no contract. If I went with one of the big cable companies I would be paying at least double for the same thing

How is your internet provisioned? Is the no-name ISP building their own infrastructure or are they using the network of a larger one?

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by scandinavian »

411111111111111 wrote: post #161
user- wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The last spiderman was something around 200gb That is not true at all? Spider man was like 70gb , miles morales was like 40gb

i could definitely be wrong, I thought i made that clear from my phrasing. A cursory google does seem like it was closer to my number then yours though. Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War Cross gen bundle / Ultimate edition - 283.5 GB minimum Spider-Man Miles Morales Ultimate Edition - 170.5 GB minimum Hitman 3 - 105.1 GB minimum Destiny 2 - 101.1 GB minimum The Last of Us 2 - 93.37 GB minimum

I have it installed and it's 105 gb, like there are plenty of sources on google that claims. You picked the only one saying higher.

https://gamerant.com/ps5-biggest-game-file-sizes-gb/

Here's the offical site also saying 105 gb:

https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/games/game/marvels-spid...

Also it's two games, Miles Morales and the remake of the PS4 version of Spider-Man.

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