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My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

michael.stapelberg.ch

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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I had 10gb internet on what was essentially a shared connection when I lived in Zürich. That, along with a surplus server I literally housed in my shoe closet, gave me the firepower I needed to prototype out something that led to two research grants which now employ myself and a new PhD student. We discount technological investments like this as being “too much” and “unpractical”, but we forget that, even if it only…

Being from a third world country, I completely agree with you on how technological investment can change lives. Even a low speed connection in a rural zone can achieve wonderful things.

But I really wonder what was your prototype that needed that speed connection and that wouldn't work with something slower. Can you share, at least vaguely, what was your work?

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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I'm thrilled with my gigabit fiber from Sonic. I wonder how many of their customers even get the full gigabit though; if they are connecting with WiFi they almost certainly aren't. And even ethernet is still not reliably gigabit in homes with older wiring. But this 25gbit is in another category.

I'm impressed the Ookla speedtest server can deliver 25Gbit.

The 25gbit network card he mentions costs $400-$500, that's cheaper than I would have guessed.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What provider?

Shaw in canada. Maybe Telus is better, I’m not sure

I'm on Telus gigabit fibre, for $69/mo. I've never once had issues with throttling, even when I was on Shaw (the 300mbps plan). What kind of throttling are you getting and in what use cases?

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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I fondly remember the days in 2010 in Zurich, and cablecom had good functional internet, don't remember the speed. Then I moved to Germany in 2013, and it surprised me that I can't have internet in my apartment for the next two months, because the technician appointment and when I finally received, I got a meagre DSL connection with bad ping and 32 Mbits.

It has gotten better over the years, but even the best available consumer connection is 1000 Mbits down and 200Mbits up.

Majority of the tech Germans I meet are embarassed about the internet and telecom infra, being an advanced economy.

Hopefully the new government fixes things.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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On behalf of all tech-minded Americans, I would like to say... I hate you. I just got a notice in the mail that my ISP is "upgrading" their network so now I can pay $200 USD/month to get a whopping 2gbps, which I actually thought was pretty amazing until I read your post. So, thanks. In all seriousness, congrats! You made a good case for why one would need that much bandwidth. Also, we need to catch up here. :)

I'm in a rural city in Thailand, fiber 2Gbps is $50 / mo. And this is just for normie. Like unimpressive.

How affordable is $50 in rural Thailand compared to the USA?

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Not convinced by the use case section. Very few servers will allow you a full 25gbit download, let alone anything more than a 1gbit (and often less). And if you own the server on the other end, that sort of bandwidth comes at a cost. I think beyond 1gbit, the benefit become super marginal and the hardware expensive.

You forgetting the case where one hosts their own servers in the basement. Assuming that the connection is symmetric and offers static IP (which it does in my case but "only" for 1GBit/s).

Some time ago PC has revolutionized the world by giving access to computer power to general population. This has unleashed a tidal wave of creativity and business.

Giving the ability to host own servers to everyone can open up endless opportunities as well.

I host some of my own servers and benefit from it greatly.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Not convinced by the use case section. Very few servers will allow you a full 25gbit download, let alone anything more than a 1gbit (and often less). And if you own the server on the other end, that sort of bandwidth comes at a cost. I think beyond 1gbit, the benefit become super marginal and the hardware expensive.

> I think beyond 1gbit, the benefit become super marginal and the hardware expensive Is it expensive though? We spend how much of our lives online. How much do you think this all-spanning life upgrade costs? What is the price of never ever dealing with buffer-bloat? Take a guess. I calculate it as a one time $356 cost plus labor. You might have paid more for your wifi system. 128 port 25gbe switches are around $20k (…

It sounds like you're just taking about cost for the ISP to upgrade.

To actually realize your faster speeds, you need to spend thousands of dollars yourself on new switches and NICs. And then, as mentioned, the benefits are marginal. You would have to be streaming 10+ 4K movies at once to even "need" gigabit, let alone 25Gbps.

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