Hiring discrimination: a problem for men in female-dominated occupations

Post by smugma » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 6:28 PM UTC

bendbro wrote: post #272

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It didn’t take long after Silicon Valley was no longer on the air for the entire industry to become more absurd than its parody. I really don’t think any of this is sustainable either. Latinos in particular seem very opposed to this stuff & given that they are part of the fastest growing demographic in the country I don’t see how political support for policies like this can be maintained.

I recently made a move from Seattle to Dallas. While in Seattle I was consumed by the thought that all of American academia, business, and media was consumed by idpol and other associated confusions. In Seattle, every interaction is permeated by conversations about identity, and friend groups are highly segregated by class, if not race. Moving to Dallas completely changed my perspective. Dallas is an actual multicult…

Post by fallingknife » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 6:29 PM UTC

JCM9 wrote: post #184

There are very concerning patterns developing at the moment in the DEI space. DEI efforts, and often those leading them, are increasingly the most biased and close minded parts of the organization. Spreading selected stereotypes and often solving concerns about “discrimination” by being very biased and inequitable. For example at my last company a report showed that slightly fewer of a certain minority were promoted.…

Post by forum_ghost » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 6:29 PM UTC

Manuel_D wrote: post #94

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>people in interview panels openly saying "but he's a white man" / "do we want to hire more white men" etc. Isn't this illegal?

Who is going to speak up? I've worked in these environments before and it's career suicide to object to DEI discrimination.

Post by jaywalk » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 6:30 PM UTC

waterhouse wrote: post #126

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In general it’s also a problem with what is considered diverse. If you’re a white man from a poor family with no college education, the policy is to explicitly discriminate against you. If you’re a white woman from an upper middle class background, you’re considered diverse and given advantages despite the fact that you could have gone into any field you wanted, could probably afford to switch on a whim, and don’t ha…

It's a strange thing for the adjective "diverse" to apply to a single human, in any case. It's a descriptor that applies to groups ; the only way I can see it applying to one human is with genetic mosaicism or something.

Post by themitigating » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 6:30 PM UTC

daenz wrote: post #71

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If the average person actually knew what these initiatives meant they would be against them. In practice what it does is make it so members of designated groups typically win by default whenever they & other candidates meet minimum requirements for a position. It’s not even good for the people who get promotions faster as a result imo because everyone around them knows things are rigged in their favor. And who has be…

>And who has benefitted It benefits the people who gain power and status by using virtues as a social weapon.