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Atlassian products have been down for 4 days
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Re: Atlassian products have been down for 4 days
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Wait, do people really have a low reputation of Atlassian? The picture o had in mind was that that pay top $$$, are remote friendly, etc. I would have expected their stuff to be much better...
It’s loved by managers (the ones deciding to buy the product) because it looks shiny and it can auto generate burndown charts. For anyone actually trying to work with it on a daily basis is a huge pain in the ass. Mostly due to the dreadful performance, which was bed enough with the on prem solutions and has now gotten even worse on cloud. Another wtf example is their wysiwyg editor actually has no own markup, it is…
Not to mention their own version of “not quite markdown” markdown. It infuriates me to try and format text in any atlassian product because of that. I don’t know a single technical non manager person who enjoys or likes atlassian anything.
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Alternatively just say no to JIRA. JIRA is one of the main reasons I left let's encrypt. JIRA is also one of the main reasons I said no to two companies. Life is way too fucking short to deal with this. I think companies don't realize how much devex matters. A big reason of employee attrition in my experience has been shitty fucking tools that never get replaced.
This is good information. I used it 5 years ago and my memories are not particularly bad. But it was self-hosted by a capable admin and the people customizing it were decent developers. From what I read here things have changed a lot: They force everybody to cloud which is slow. And the fact that they are higly customizable (adding mandatory fields...) is of course a nightmare in all companies with too many incapable…
Yeah there's just so many better solutions. Unfortunately a lot of companies think this is a low priority issue and never actually spend time replacing it.
Everyone at my workplace hated jira. We still never replaced it.
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Are you dismissing the importance of points driven scrums? And what about the stories? Won't someone think of the stories?!?
Did consulting work for a place that gave their execs bonuses based on story-point velocity... jesus.
"What else we can do to improve productiviy... except paying more to whose who actually do the work" ?
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Never fear: these funds are being directed to critically useful tasks of an earth-shattering priority like building a wooden skyscraper .
I thought this was a joke or something but after googling it you aren't joking.... Wow... https://architectureau.com/articles/worlds-tallest-hybrid-ti... Hell of a bet on building more physical space with WFH and other factors making office space cheaper. Plus investing in a new building material concept. This seems like a passion project for someone high up in their food chain.
BTW, $546000 / 5y / 4000 persons = $27300 annually. But that wouldn't magically generate $1B/y out of thin air.
Re: Atlassian products have been down for 4 days
#166see also https://status.atlassian.com/
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What was the discontinued most popular product? Hipchat? That was pretty terrible by modern standards.
On-premise for Jira, confluence, etc. You can't self host now, just use their cloud offerings.
You can self-host, that’s the data center versions.
Upside, it’s the same code just difference license file, and it enables clustering (plus lots of other artificially limited features)
Downside, it’s a subscription license and it’s insanely expensive.
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Consider yourself fortunate, you were spared pain of using JIRA and Confluence
We use Confluence (on-premise). It's fine. Certainly no worse than any other wiki that just accretes content. (Then again, we're not doing anything overly sophisticated with it, or relying on any of its features for critical workflows.)
It is impossible to find anything in Confluence. The search is useless. Anything that's not in my list of recently worked-on/viewed is basically gone forever.
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It’s loved by managers (the ones deciding to buy the product) because it looks shiny and it can auto generate burndown charts. For anyone actually trying to work with it on a daily basis is a huge pain in the ass. Mostly due to the dreadful performance, which was bed enough with the on prem solutions and has now gotten even worse on cloud. Another wtf example is their wysiwyg editor actually has no own markup, it is…
Gosh the wysiwyg editor is so, so, so bad. I still can’t believe it’s so bad.
it's not consistent between confluence and jira. they don't listen to requests for improvements (best example is ctrl+[ / ctrl+] for indent / outdent).
the latter is forgivable, the former is not.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
We use Confluence (on-premise). It's fine. Certainly no worse than any other wiki that just accretes content. (Then again, we're not doing anything overly sophisticated with it, or relying on any of its features for critical workflows.)
It is impossible to find anything in Confluence. The search is useless. Anything that's not in my list of recently worked-on/viewed is basically gone forever.
thank you for saying this -- I thought it was just me!