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I'd like to hear from someone in China on why the government still pursues a zero-Covid policy. Is it just face-saving at this point?
Yeah. I mean if it had a purpose it has been served. Why don't they use all that massive CCP infrastructure to have zero tolerance for not getting vaccinated instead? It's ludicrous.
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The reason it’s a logical fallacy to assume size makes a real difference is the work scales with population, but the capacity to solve problems also scales with population. That’s a a formal fallacy in that the argument doesn’t follow from the premise. In general economies of scale make things easier as you start dealing with ever larger groups.
> the capacity to solve problems also scales with population Missing a potential key factor is not a logical fallacy. You can be perfectly logical operating from the wrong set of underlying assumptions and be completely wrong. I'd say that your statement sounds intuitive but is not necessarily correct. As a cell's size increases, its surface area and volume both increase, but its surface area increases by the square…
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There is nothing topic related to see. I consider this spam.
What do you mean nothing topic related to see? It's literal first hand videos from Shanghai, and the topic of this post is "An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown". What would make it more on topic? View their stories. These people post videos everyday from inside Shanghai, since this is a post about accounts of Shanghais handling of Covid, I figured there may be others interested in seeing these.
Kind of crazy how sentimental and emotional the response is with barely any actual discussion going on about the merits of this on a grand scale. Yes, stories about people's dogs and temporary economic depression are awful. The larger picture is that China by pursuing these policies has stopped millions of deaths, probably tens of millions of cases of long term disabilities, and overall kept the economy going. It's w…
“Millions of deaths” sounds like a lot because the world (and Chinese) population is high, but the per-person life expectancy impact of an unchecked Covid pandemic is quite modest.
Based in Shanghai since 2014, I can share some details on why it feels so unbearable to be here right now. Firstly, the totalitarian government have never been good at communicating anything except propaganda. So on one hand we're inundated with "Go Shanghai!" and how brave volunteers distribute food, on the other hand, we're completely in the dark about what's going on. Goalposts are being moved daily, rumors prolif…
> I will strongly reconsider staying here. It’s fascinating to me how tolerant some people are. After reading your comment (very informative thanks!), I would be well past “considering”. I’d be gone (with family in toe) as soon as humanly possible.
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Do you think they wouldn't be able to keep you inside a house?
Yes, they could, but could they keep everyone in a city of millions in their houses though?
This is what annoys me about the US COVID protesters. We really didn’t have lockdowns in the US. A lockdown is when you have curfews, can’t go out, can’t travel at all, etc. I saw little of that in the US and what was there was sparsely enforced to the point of being not much more than a suggestion.
I guess you guys don’t really use that argument anymore, huh?
> People are finding out that state media exists not for accurate news, but only to spin reality into a narrative that fits the powers higher up. Are people really finding that out only now? I thought that this was generally accepted knowledge even in China, despite the constant fear and propaganda they live with. What's happening now with the strict lockdowns and zero-Covid policy is inhumane. People are literally p…
So in summary it was not about that he didn't know that state media was manipulating the news, but more that the crisis showed how this could affect anyone.
This is legitimately confusing to me. Didn’t we learn that: 1) Lockdown do nothing 2) Vaccines are effective Why are they locking people down? Why aren’t they just vaccinating them all?
Lockdowns were extremely effective in preventing healthcare collapse in nearly all countries it was implemented. Countries that did not go into lockdown early on such as Sweden were seeing up to 15% death rated. Lockdowns allowed sufficient time for the development and distribution of effective vaccines. China unfortunately has not completed the latter step of wide distribution of an effective vaccine. Their healthca…
No they weren’t. Show your source.
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What do you mean nothing topic related to see? It's literal first hand videos from Shanghai, and the topic of this post is "An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown". What would make it more on topic? View their stories. These people post videos everyday from inside Shanghai, since this is a post about accounts of Shanghais handling of Covid, I figured there may be others interested in seeing these.
I click the links and see nothing topic related. I don't have an instagram account.