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An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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Post by ithkuil »

0xcoffee wrote: post #76
magpi3 wrote: post #42

I am in China too. In Shenzhen. I think the author is very unkind to the Bao An. I am 100% sure they would treat me the same if there is a similar lockdown here, but I imagine they are under a lot of pressure. My hearts go out to them though. I have a dog here in China, and I am very afraid of what will happen to her if an outbreak like this hits my area. And how can you even have a dog if you can't leave a building…

Even worse, they do lockdown in place and without warning. So if you were at work, and your dog was home, then your dog would stave alone. I really don't understand why they don't at least let people stuck at work go home, really crazy situation. Source: Chinese gf's dad is in lockdown at his work, while mom in lockdown at home.

Is gf's dad work in another city or does the lockdown in place prevent movement from any buildings to get back home even if close apart?

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Post by somewhereoutth »

ArchD wrote: post #25
drumhead wrote: post #7

They dont seem to be able to organise a lockdown properly do they?

More to the point is that they care more about "zero covid" than other aspects of public welfare. The necessity of the lockdown for omicron, which is less deadly than previous variants, is dubious so if they are unable to properly organize a lockdown without unreasonably affecting welfare and livelihood, they should not have unless they do not care about them. The Leninists have a history of human rights abuse and at…

Omicron has a similar severity to Original Covid. Vax rates are low among the elderly in China, so it would be disaster if they lost control.

Assuming they are successful in containing the outbreak in Shanghai, China will come through this with disease and death rates orders of magnitude lower than the US. Their history may be bad, but in this case they have it right.

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Post by Barrin92 »

Kind of crazy how sentimental and emotional the response is with barely any actual discussion going on about the merits of this on a grand scale. Yes, stories about people's dogs and temporary economic depression are awful. The larger picture is that China by pursuing these policies has stopped millions of deaths, probably tens of millions of cases of long term disabilities, and overall kept the economy going.

It's weird to me that someone ends up in China and is surprised by collectivist policies.

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Post by krona »

somewhereoutth wrote: post #119
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #19

> This is the biggest, richest, most international city of China and people are starving, without medicine, and without freedom. Ouch. Seems like a really bad situation.

The article provides no direct evidence of people starving, only that 'We cannot freely choose our recipes'. There is also a picture of 3 fresh fish!

One assumes he acquired the fish with the exchange of money, however some occupations actually still require your physical presence outside your bedroom. Do you see the catch-22?

Given the photo of food rations (unlikely to support an adult for a day) the implication is there is no financial support for Shanghai residents, but the author doesn't say.

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Post by philliphaydon »

Jonovono wrote: post #129
magpi3 wrote: post #42

I am in China too. In Shenzhen. I think the author is very unkind to the Bao An. I am 100% sure they would treat me the same if there is a similar lockdown here, but I imagine they are under a lot of pressure. My hearts go out to them though. I have a dog here in China, and I am very afraid of what will happen to her if an outbreak like this hits my area. And how can you even have a dog if you can't leave a building…

Be careful - they are killing peoples dogs that test positive for covid

They are killing the pets if the owners test for covid.

https://www.whatsonweibo.com/another-pet-dog-beaten-to-death...

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Post by somewhereoutth »

philliphaydon wrote: post #3
grecy wrote: post #2

The rest of the world seems to have gone all-in with vaccines and are now moving away from lockdowns. Why are China sticking to the lockdown route?

Because it has a zero covid policy. It is trying to project an image of itself as being this ideal society where covid isn’t running wild while america is out of control. The lockdown they are having is horrible tho. My coworker is based there and what I’ve heard from her is scary. She wants to move out of China when she can.

I mean, assuming they can contain it in Shanghai, then China really is an ideal society where Covid isn't running wild. We are yet to see the full burden of disease and disability from (repeated) Covid infections - it may be very serious.
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