No shame, they don't even hide their racism. Where's the outcry.
You will see no outcry in the media because that would be antisemitism. I hate 21st century
Yea, the rest of the centuries in human history were much better weren't they.
Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
> this is about Arab or Christian Israeli citizens This is incorrect. There is no distinction in the law between Arab Israelis and Jewish Israelis. The law applies equally to Israeli Jews who wish to marry a resident of the WB/Gaza, or one of the other countries mentioned in the law.
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.
Are you trying to say that there's something inherent to the Jewish population that they're less likely to marry a non-Jewish person than a Muslim is to marry a non-Muslim?
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
That language is an explicit part of Israel - the Declaration of Independence enshrines the idea that Israel is, first and foremost, a Jewish state. In more recent times, the nature of the state is often referred to as "Jewish and democratic". It is also enshrined in the basic laws of Israel (Israel doesn't have a constitution). This entire concept has a dedicated article on Wikipedia [0]. It's a pretty fun read for…
> This is, in my opinion, the main reason why Israel has never attempted to annex the Palestinian territories. The Arab majority (or near majority today) that would form in the population would seriously challenge the idea of a Jewish and democratic state - they would be forced to stop recognizing Arabs' right to vote and/or hold office. For what it's worth Israel could go the federation route - basically, have three…
Instead they want to have their cake and eat it too. Keep the ethnostate, but opt for land encroachment and kicking people out.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Israel, polygamy is forbidden to Jews. The Muslims practice polygamy, I have many friends with multiple wives.
Legally recognized multiple wives? Because according to the sources I can find, that has been illegal for decades, regardless of religion.
I don't know about internet sources or laws, but in general Arab affairs are left up to the Arabs. I just took a look through my telephone and at least four people in my address book have multiple wives. These are people that I know well enough to have in my address book. Two of them I'd call personal friends, one is an electrician, and another I buy my gas from. I could probably find more in there, and I certainly know of many more.
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#235This is how the Middle East works by the way. Interreligious marriages are a very big deal and banned in every single Middle Eastern country. The good countries will refuse to issue a marriage license to you, the bad countries will send the police to watch as a mob lynches you. If you see Israel as some kind of psuedo-western state, then yea, you should be shocked. But as a Middle Eastern country, this is just anothe…
Is this true? I've seen Christian (Arminian) and Muslim couples in Iran.
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article doesn’t mention religion anywhere. There are plenty of Christian and Muslim citizens of Israel, and plenty of Christian and Muslim Palestinians, so the marriages don’t have to be inter-religious. Inter-religious marriages are already impossible in Israel, and have been AFAIK forever (but you can fly to e.g. Cyprus to have one performed and it will be recognized in Israel).
> "The State of Israel is Jewish and so it will remain," said Simcha Rothman of the far-right Religious Zionism party, a member of the opposition who brought the law forward with Interior Minister Ayelet Shaked. "Today, God willing, Israel's defensive shield will be significantly strengthened," he told the Knesset hours before the vote.
I'm baffled how the people who survived the Holocaust, among numerous other persecutions, are now so intolerant of another persecuted people.
Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses
#237Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses
#238This is how the Middle East works by the way. Interreligious marriages are a very big deal and banned in every single Middle Eastern country. The good countries will refuse to issue a marriage license to you, the bad countries will send the police to watch as a mob lynches you. If you see Israel as some kind of psuedo-western state, then yea, you should be shocked. But as a Middle Eastern country, this is just anothe…
I’m not sure but this NOT how Middle East work. At least not in Lebanon and Egypt. Anyway this is just wrong - even is some other countries do that.
Egypt has a lynching every 3 month or so because of an inter-religious relationship[0]. Lebanon had a religious civil war a generation ago, and would probably end up in another one soon if things continue as they are.
0. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2016/06/20/what-egypt-...
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This is so annoying. It’s not rocket science to understand that Arabic is a language and you are only an Arab if your cultural language is Arabic. Not all Arabs are Muslims and not all Muslims are Arabs. It’s like saying that all who speak English are Christians. And all who are Christians speak English.
Just imagine your from Africa and everyone in the Media talks about "Africa" as if Morocco and for example Tanzania can be compared ;)
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Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses
#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article doesn’t mention religion anywhere. There are plenty of Christian and Muslim citizens of Israel, and plenty of Christian and Muslim Palestinians, so the marriages don’t have to be inter-religious. Inter-religious marriages are already impossible in Israel, and have been AFAIK forever (but you can fly to e.g. Cyprus to have one performed and it will be recognized in Israel).
What you say is true but it is also true that the religious minorities in Israel don't amount for much when it comes to the law. Israel's 'religious right' (the ultra-orthodox parties) have a lot of influence over marriage law in particular.
ultra-orthodox are not right wing, in general they are apolitical and will join any type of coalition as long as they get the budget for their community.