I’m surprised there is no technical solution to shell-ing. Some kind of autonomous anti-shell gun that shoots them down mid flight? It seems like a fairly common problem.
The "solution" is controlling the airspace so you can easily shoot back
Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission
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Re: Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission
#72The number of warcrimes committed by the Russians is astounding. But shooting at fleeing civilians has to earn you a very special place in hell. This is pure blackmail, and it won't stop here.
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However looking at your other activity, I would have to present article from Russia Today.
First and foremost Russians shouldn't be there. How evil they were exactly, can be assessed later, when they go back to their side of the border.
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#73It's so incredibly sad to see this playing out exactly as many predicted and being unable to stop it (due to the threat of nuclear war). It's like standing on a train track and seeing an oncoming train miles away and yet being unable to move. So many (more) Ukrainians are about to die or suffer horribly, and much of the physical history and cultural artifacts of that city will be destroyed.
This is genuinely not an attempt at flamewar but why can't civilians just leave? Russia is obviously going to win. It's the same with Palestenians, they obviously have not and will not win against Israel. The logical thing to do is to leave, suffer but be sure that your kids will have it better. But I reckon this isn't about logic?
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#74I don’t understand all the history and nuance of the situation, but I feel incredibly guilty on behalf of the west for courting Ukraine for admission to NATO / EU, but leaving them in a very precarious and vulnerable position in the meantime. It’s just an impossible and sad situation.
NATO has been quite clear for a decade that Ukraine will not be able to join. The EU also cannot accept Ukraine as a member before a very long time. Neither NATO nor the EU are courting Ukraine, Ukrainians very actively want to be part of both institutions to get some level of protection.
So it’s the other way around. Of course that doesn’t make it less sad.
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#75I can’t understand how Putin would be able to pay for the reconstruction costs of the immense damage he’s causing, leading me to assume he intends to dismember the country, take the southern and eastern parts that he wants, and hand the ruin over to the west for us to foot the bill.
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#76Even if he succeeds in that, what is the end game?
You now have an immutable hard border on one side of your country, are knee deep in sanctions which will not evaporate and another giant nation ready to take advantage of your poor position on the other side because they’re the only people who will even touch you with a 20 foot long stick. On top of that you have to now commit resources to permanently securing a whole another country which doesn’t want you in it and is being supplied with superior weapons from just about everyone else on the planet.
Putin just sold the whole nation into poverty, slavery and decay.
This is what we generally call a galactic scale fuck up.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
They don't want actual evidence. There plenty of videos of civilians being murdered, which I'm sure they'll say isn't evidence enough.
See, Human Rights Watch doing witness interviews and picture analysis is what I call evidence. Some video or picture somewhere on social media not so much. I've seen to many of those, from wars years ago in different parts of the world than the one the claim to be from, to actually believe any of those anymore.
These videos aren't from early-mid 2000s middle east where westerners can't tell the difference. They're clearly Ukranian cities and very high def videos (which didn't exist in past Soviet/European wars).
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's so incredibly sad to see this playing out exactly as many predicted The narrative started out that Putin is a dog backed into a corner, therefore he is bluffing and won’t actually invade. The story was also that he has the most to lose. Maybe the premise was correct, but the conclusion hasn’t been proven valid yet.
Most economic models need to stop assuming that the typical actor is rational. Putin is clearly not objectively rational, at best subjectively rational within the realms of his ideology (unite the ethnically Russian people). Add to that miscommunication within all sectors of government just to please your superiors and that's how you arrive at the, sorry, shit tier decision making surrounding this entire war. Anyone…
> Putin is clearly not objectively rational, at best subjectively rational within the realms of his ideology
This is the only type of rationality. What are you imagining when you say "objectively rational"?
> Most economic models need to stop assuming that the typical actor is rational.
Being rational as defined by your personal ideology is what economic models postulate when they assume rationality.
Re: Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission
#79It's so incredibly sad to see this playing out exactly as many predicted and being unable to stop it (due to the threat of nuclear war). It's like standing on a train track and seeing an oncoming train miles away and yet being unable to move. So many (more) Ukrainians are about to die or suffer horribly, and much of the physical history and cultural artifacts of that city will be destroyed.
This is genuinely not an attempt at flamewar but why can't civilians just leave? Russia is obviously going to win. It's the same with Palestenians, they obviously have not and will not win against Israel. The logical thing to do is to leave, suffer but be sure that your kids will have it better. But I reckon this isn't about logic?
Don't think the logic is the same. First the Palestinians aren't under attack, they can just stop firing rockets. Second I think there are a lot of people who profit from a cold/warm war, especially there.
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#80It makes sense why Zelensky is desperately asking for fighter jets. As long as Russia doesn’t control the skies it will be difficult to bomb Kiev into submission.
I hope the poles manage to get some jets to them.