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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by namecheapTA »

system2 wrote: post #135
polack wrote: post #28

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Will the dead Ukrainians get their lives back? No one cares about your Gmail account mate. Have some respect for what’s going on.

Looks like a troll account created 6 hours ago.

It's not a troll account. It's a throw away account because you can't trust people these days to not go after your company/family/reputation because you hold an unpopular opinion. I am not 'trolling' anyone here. In a few days I'll be back to using a regular sn here, and you'll like me as much as you used to.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by f-jin »

pishpash wrote: post #147
vemv wrote: post #17

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I'll point out the obvious: Ukraine is simply too close to home for many of us Europeans - they're our neighbors, colleagues, friends, we vacation in Kiev, they're our football rivals. We broadly share culture, race, etc. Few of those can be said about Iraq which is far away enough to seem some sort of abstract topic. So, having war at home (vs. in a newspaper) is completely novel for us and therefore unacceptable.

So, racism?

not racism, more like discrimination. It's not strange to pay more attention to your neighbor getting shot than some guy in another city getting shot.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by alangibson »

namecheapTA wrote: post #23
Svoka wrote: post #19

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> Do you feel this way about American companies as well, or only when convenient?

Reply to all those saying this is not whataboutism: The question as posed has no value and is meant only to obscure the issue at hand.

Here are some critical questions that would have been worth asking:

- Russia has a legitimate gripe against NATO expansion. Why aren't you citizens of Western democracies doing something to keep your governments from expanding?

- Sanctions will hurt average Russians that have no voice in their government. How do you citizens of sanctioning countries justify this?

- US arms makers will make a fortune off of this conflict. Give me one good reason not to tax the revenues at a 100% windfall profit rate.

Dropping the intellectual equivalent of "No, you!" is just lazy.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by robert_foss »

dmitrygr wrote: post #174
diiiimaaaa wrote: post #165

I am in Ukraine right now. In a small village to the north of Kyiv. I am the author of PhotoSwipe ( https://github.com/dimsemenov/photoswipe ). Yesterday I was filling bags with sand to make a fortification for local defenders. I hear artillery as I am writing this. And by the way, you get used to it. In the last few days I received about 20 emails offering support, none of them were from russian devs. One asked a te…

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To do nothing is to be complicit. Your taxes paid for this.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by 5ESS »

diiiimaaaa wrote: post #165

I am in Ukraine right now. In a small village to the north of Kyiv. I am the author of PhotoSwipe ( https://github.com/dimsemenov/photoswipe ). Yesterday I was filling bags with sand to make a fortification for local defenders. I hear artillery as I am writing this. And by the way, you get used to it. In the last few days I received about 20 emails offering support, none of them were from russian devs. One asked a te…

How are sanctions going to make anybody more informed?

They dont…That makes no sense. Instead of sanctions, a more effective strategy would be to provide Russians with free VPNs so that they can access western news media.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by vixen99 »

darebak wrote: post #50
watwut wrote: post #18

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Fair to compare in what terms? I think that in this case, multiple nato members think this makes Russia direct threat to them. You know, Poland is possibly next, because Russia always wants Poland. Eastern Germany used to be under Russian control too, what it means to Germans? Estonia probably sees themselves as target too. All satelite previously occupied by Russia republics. Russia is expanding again toward Europe…

There is nothing suggesting that Russia is interested in anything other than Ukraine and everything else is just fear mongering.

A little searching casts doubt on that conclusion.

"NATO currently holds security dominance in Estonia, but according to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s former top economic adviser, Andrey Illarionov, “Putin has his eyes on eventually reclaiming Estonia”.

John Aravosis, “Putin wants Finland, Baltic States, says former top adviser,” http://americablog.com/2014/03/putin-wants-finland-baltic-st...

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by rimliu »

dmitrygr wrote: post #174
diiiimaaaa wrote: post #165

I am in Ukraine right now. In a small village to the north of Kyiv. I am the author of PhotoSwipe ( https://github.com/dimsemenov/photoswipe ). Yesterday I was filling bags with sand to make a fortification for local defenders. I hear artillery as I am writing this. And by the way, you get used to it. In the last few days I received about 20 emails offering support, none of them were from russian devs. One asked a te…

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How good are people being bombed in Ukraine cities feel? Only the Russian people can stop this.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by nradov »

dotancohen wrote: post #149
fabian2k wrote: post #122

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That is Russian propaganda and simply not true. There is no genocide against Russians in Ukraine.

Thre is no systematic murder in Ukraine. But this is how the UN defines genocide: > a. Killing members of the group; > b. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; > c. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; > d. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; > e. Forcibly transferring childre…

Where are those credible reports?

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by bsaul »

MrDisposable wrote: post #134
bsaul wrote: post #101

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i know it's very easy to say, but if you're russian right now, it seems to me that the only sane choice is to actively organize the overthrow of putin. It's one of the rare case (nuclear war threats), where it may be the safest solution. Especially now that a few public figures in Russia have officially standed against that war. There may be an opportunity to reach a critical mass at home.

It may work in a country where private business (i.e. state-independent source of income) is dominant, but a lot of Russians have jobs at state-owned institutions now (various administrations etc.) where they work for a meager wage. If they go out protesting, they will be fired from their jobs -- their only source of income. Not exactly a good decision, especially during the crisis times.

That’s why i mentioned a critical mass. If you protest with 1000 people, you’re in danger, but if you’re 500k much less so. Now the question being, how do you organize a 500k people protest in russia at the moment, and that i have no idea. But if it’s possible, then now would be a good time IMHO.
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