Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

Post by Hackbraten » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 8:59 PM UTC

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...in Europe. There was war all over the world, hence, World War. The Soviets suffered tremendously _before_ and during that war (mostly at the hands of their own gov't). They didn't fight for their gov't, they fought for their home. Please do not try and take an immensely complex topic and boil it down to the point it has no meaning. Yes, the Soviets defeated the Nazi's with some distraction, tech and assistance fro…

The Nazis are the eternal scapegoats of the Western elite mania. This mania underwrites their irrational doctrine and propaganda that defines current international affairs. And they never consider the preceding circumstances which led to the Nazis coming to power. It’s incredibly vacuous and irresponsible.

Post by TheCoelacanth » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 9:14 PM UTC

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Would you say the same for the Americans and USA's warmongering? Or for the Jewish people and the situation at Gaza? Voters got rid of Bush but this did not stop the unjust American wars. The Russian citizens are people just like us, powerless and with their own peace to protect.

Voters in fact did not get rid of Bush. Unless you mean HW.

Post by arrrg » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 9:32 PM UTC

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It doesn’t matter if tyrants are democratically elected. And he was a tyrant, indiscriminately slaughtering protesters. Once you are violating human dignity and human rights in such an obvious way you are in no way a legitimate leader. Election victories can never be a justification for blatant human rights violations. (This doesn’t even touch on whether the election was legitimate in the first place.) Also, whatabou…

See: immanent critique. Western liberal dogma holds that democratic consent justifies global terrorism of virtually any kind. As Chomsky says, the US state apparatus is the world’s largest terrorist organization.

Post by jessaustin » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 9:55 PM UTC

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The phrase "the free world" rubs me the wrong way. I'm obviously against what Russia is doing, any sane man would be. But as a middle eastern, the US to us has been 10x worse than Russia: They killed a million Iraqis, they killed Syrian civilians by bombing hospitals and schools. They overthrew a functional government in Libya, and they supported Syrian/Iraqi separatists (Kurds). They forcefully tried to build a mili…

Assad and Putin intentionally bombed hospitals in Syria Not the US. Maybe they did some time unintentionally, but with Putin it was part of his plans. > they supported [the] Kurds Of course, the Kurds and the US and Iraq were fighting together against Daesh (the so called Islamic State). You're giving the impression that you like Assad, Putin, Erdagon, possibly Daesh as well. What kind of person are you, I start wond…

Post by jessaustin » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 9:57 PM UTC

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I'd like (or hate, actually) to see what would happen to the US if a foreign power was able to fund a terrorist militia and overthrow their government. You have too much faith in the morals of humans who don't have a strong leadership that can hold them accountable.

Obviously that's an important point, but OP's assertion has more to do with the cultural and practical history playing a role in the aftermath of a government falling. The US has been at relative peace internally for 150 years and has a relatively strong bent towards republican government. That's not something that can be quickly undone. The government "falling" in some countries is as simple as a particular leader b…