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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by jprd »

nopenopenopeno wrote: post #515
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #372

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> no different than donating money to the United States military Which Americans did. In World War II. With donations, war bonds and by accepting massive sacrifices to their quality of life through rations, price controls and more. We did this when we felt threatened. Last I checked, the Canadians weren’t rolling tanks into Syracuse.

This is precisely the delusion that makes America such an insane global actor. Get over yourself! The Nazis lost! The USSR won the war! Move on!

...in Europe. There was war all over the world, hence, World War. The Soviets suffered tremendously _before_ and during that war (mostly at the hands of their own gov't). They didn't fight for their gov't, they fought for their home.

Please do not try and take an immensely complex topic and boil it down to the point it has no meaning.

Yes, the Soviets defeated the Nazi's with some distraction, tech and assistance from the Allies. China did a whole ton of work against Japan, they fought the longest and hardest.

Also, without the Marshall Plan (of which the Soviets were fearful of and denied themselves participation), Europe would not be Europe right now. Maybe Russia wouldn't be an economic wasteland today, forcing their gangster gov't to use an invasion of a sovereign country to prop up their oligarchy.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by avgcorrection »

dhimes wrote: post #520
mvc wrote: post #488

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Yes, UK and US foreign policy has been, and in many places around the world, is currently, ethically, morally questionable. As a UK citizen, of voting age for 20 years now, I'm guilty as charged. I voted for Blair before the Iraq war, but like many others protested on our streets in the build up (and I haven't voted for them since). Doesn't make us wrong about Putin though.

I'm right there with you. I voted for Bush in 2000 based on his education platform; when it was clear the war was a major mistake that he wouldn't admit to, I tried to vote him out in 2004.

So you’re to blame for an illegal war started after 2000? Because that was the initial, implied claim.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by thesz »

watwut wrote: post #228
thesz wrote: post #224

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What you consider misinformation and propaganda I may consider valuable vantage points. I also should point that any defense of the freedom of speech also defends freedom of misinformation and propaganda.

> What you consider misinformation and propaganda I may consider valuable vantage points. If they are actual misinformation and propaganda and you are unwilling to even admit existence of that category, then you yourself are threat to freedom - of speech or otherwise. > I also should point that any defense of the freedom of speech also defends freedom of misinformation and propaganda. Nah. Defenders of free speech no…

I think I clearly pointed out that there is misinformation and there is propaganda.

Yet those are classes of speech.

Let me point out that I was answering the call to stop these classes of speech nearly completely, using magic of Twitter and Facebook.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by charles_f »

HWR_14 wrote: post #138
charles_f wrote: post #92

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That would cut off the libgen though, so I'm against that.

In the case of a hot war involving hundreds of thousands of troops and the 4th vs 7th largest militaries, maybe free access to papers isn't the most pressing issue.

That was obviously a very serious comment I made.

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Post by [deleted] »

nevermind1337 wrote: post #422
neonsunset wrote: post #367

1: Small website with simple JS to ddos a list of russian gov and propaganda websites. Works anywhere where those are not blocked (e.g. Ukraine). Link - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ 2. Console tool for unplanned load testing Link - https://github.com/codesenberg/bombardier/releases/tag/v1.2.... Example usage - ./bombardier-linux-amd64 --duration=240h --connections=1000 --latencies https://lenta.ru U…

Update the targets with the following please: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/UndefinedProgramBehaviour/... then we can share as much as we can

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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by Ntrails »

amcoastal wrote: post #458
Ntrails wrote: post #447

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It's the job of the Canadian people to stand up to oppression and fight the governmental overreach... etc etc

Yes. It is. What's your point? If the truckers of Canada try to shut down the country over a vaccine mandate, seems the Russians should consider this a reason to do their best to shut down Russia.

My point is _look how well it went for them in an incredibly non authoritarian regime_. Look how effectively they changed policy! Look how little personal cost it has had!

People like to act as though they'd be the person in the crowd who would rush a lone gunman first. Sure - you'll die, but the group will get the gunman and everything will be better. They definitely love to proclaim that some other bugger in that situation should be willing to take the bullet.

I, personally, hope I never have to make the decision between dying doing the right thing and living doing the easy thing. I've no intention of judging those who do.

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Post by throwaway2438 »

nevermind1337 wrote: post #422
neonsunset wrote: post #367

1: Small website with simple JS to ddos a list of russian gov and propaganda websites. Works anywhere where those are not blocked (e.g. Ukraine). Link - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ 2. Console tool for unplanned load testing Link - https://github.com/codesenberg/bombardier/releases/tag/v1.2.... Example usage - ./bombardier-linux-amd64 --duration=240h --connections=1000 --latencies https://lenta.ru U…

Update the targets with the following please: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/UndefinedProgramBehaviour/... then we can share as much as we can

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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by Merem »

_joel wrote: post #539
Merem wrote: post #535

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Depends on which country you are from. There wasn't exactly reporting from it (at best only at the beginning) here which is why she moved there. Additionally, now the general tenor is that "Putin" invaded Ukraine basically without any reason even though there were several said by him. He even warned the Ukraine of consequences should they continue with the aggression when Russia formally acknowledged the separatist r…

He pumped money into the seperatists for years, destabalising the region even further than it would have been. There is no excuse for what he's doing.

You mean like paying social benefits (pensions etc)? Possibly. After all, Ukraine was supposed to do that according to Minsk II but they violated the agreement in more than enough points. Personally, I see the NATO sending weapons and establishing bases...ah, they don't call them "bases" but "mission" instead to train military and the like as destabilizing factors.

(Then there is also the interesting issue of American biolabs in Ukraine (and other countries bordering Russia). There were reports of what the US does there but we will see whether the Russians can still find anything or whether it's too late.)

Anyway, it's pretty much already over and the West won. Putin/Russia got painted as the baddies + more sanctions (e.g. Nord Stream II suspended, so now the US can sell their shitty, overpriced fracking stuff to the EU). The Ukraine got screwed over/played by the West but they had already achieved a lot of goals (getting access to all the rich soil + controlling it for example as well as dividing brothers and sisters by supporting nationalists to the point where we now have those language/racial laws). But hey, apparently a lot of Western people support such a government. "Slava Ukraini/Heil Ukraine", as they say.

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Post by TheFreim »

randomsearch wrote: post #256
TheFreim wrote: post #59

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I am not familiar with RT, what "propaganda" were they spreading? I've known of "rt.com" for a while, seeing it posted occasionally, and it never was anything that gave me pause (didn't even known it stood for Russia Today until today).

Yesterday they were describing how Ukraine is shelling around Russian schools…

Did that actually happen? It very well could be true even if the framing is inappropriate (Russians could be stationed around schools, for example).

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Post by lostmsu »

neonsunset wrote: post #367

1: Small website with simple JS to ddos a list of russian gov and propaganda websites. Works anywhere where those are not blocked (e.g. Ukraine). Link - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ 2. Console tool for unplanned load testing Link - https://github.com/codesenberg/bombardier/releases/tag/v1.2.... Example usage - ./bombardier-linux-amd64 --duration=240h --connections=1000 --latencies https://lenta.ru U…

The first website only puts ~500KBps of load, according to Task Manager. Is it even effective?
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