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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by neonsunset »

urbandw311er wrote: post #375
neonsunset wrote: post #367

1: Small website with simple JS to ddos a list of russian gov and propaganda websites. Works anywhere where those are not blocked (e.g. Ukraine). Link - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ 2. Console tool for unplanned load testing Link - https://github.com/codesenberg/bombardier/releases/tag/v1.2.... Example usage - ./bombardier-linux-amd64 --duration=240h --connections=1000 --latencies https://lenta.ru U…

Constantly errors by triggering cross-origin / access control checks in browser: is this intended and is the tool still effective in spite of this?

Thank you for feedback! In order to work effectively vs some sites, you may need to run Chrome with CORS disabled: https://alfilatov.com/posts/run-chrome-without-cors/

Windows: Right click on desktop, add new shortcut, Add the target as "[PATH_TO_CHROME]\chrome.exe" --disable-web-security --disable-gpu --user-data-dir=~/chromeTemp , Click OK.

OSX: open -n -a /Applications/Google\ Chrome.app/Contents/MacOS/Google\ Chrome --args --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome_dev_test" --disable-web-security Linux: google-chrome --disable-web-security

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by cutemonster »

MarcellusDrum wrote: post #249
reitanqild wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are probably downvoted for - voluntarily or involuntarily (I cannot judge) - running the errands of the enemies of the free world by suggesting that it is hopeless while it is absolutely not. (Why is it not hopeless? Russian forces suffer large losses and their morale is breaking, after all, what sane person wants to shoot their peaceful neigbours and relatives? Russians are already taking to the streets to prote…

The phrase "the free world" rubs me the wrong way. I'm obviously against what Russia is doing, any sane man would be. But as a middle eastern, the US to us has been 10x worse than Russia: They killed a million Iraqis, they killed Syrian civilians by bombing hospitals and schools. They overthrew a functional government in Libya, and they supported Syrian/Iraqi separatists (Kurds). They forcefully tried to build a mili…

Assad and Putin intentionally bombed hospitals in Syria

Not the US. Maybe they did some time unintentionally, but with Putin it was part of his plans.

> they supported [the] Kurds

Of course, the Kurds and the US and Iraq were fighting together against Daesh (the so called Islamic State).

You're giving the impression that you like Assad, Putin, Erdagon, possibly Daesh as well. What kind of person are you, I start wondering.

Agreed that the US has done lots of bad things in the middle east though. (Eg helping the Talibans climb to power, supporting Saddam Hussein for quite long etc)

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by Chris2048 »

mellavora wrote: post #338
MarcellusDrum wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The phrase "the free world" rubs me the wrong way. I'm obviously against what Russia is doing, any sane man would be. But as a middle eastern, the US to us has been 10x worse than Russia: They killed a million Iraqis, they killed Syrian civilians by bombing hospitals and schools. They overthrew a functional government in Libya, and they supported Syrian/Iraqi separatists (Kurds). They forcefully tried to build a mili…

I agree with your point that "the free world" seldom lives up to the values it proclaims. The difference might be that at least it proclaims them, and good people like yourself can hold them accountable to those values.

> good people like yourself can hold them accountable

Seems to me you can't really hold the US military to account, any more (or less) than you can the US police. Maybe a win here-and-there for political PR, but overall no.

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Post by selfhoster11 »

Aeolun wrote: post #337
black_puppydog wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry but what? * It looks like there won't be a Ukrainian government to speak of in a few days. * Manipulative behaviour has been identified on twitter and Facebook almost every day for the last few years, and it hasn't really led to much anything. The Ukrainian government can't do anything about that, if the independent banana republics of FAANG don't decide to act, nothing is gonna change. * Likewise for patreon.…

> It looks like there won't be a Ukrainian government to speak of in a few days. I don’t see why this would be true. The legitimate government doesn’t have to be in kiev to coordinate the defense of the country.

But an illegitimate government can be installed fairly easily in Kiev instead.

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Post by mellavora »

blobbers wrote: post #213
bink wrote: post #94

This thread is mostly full of jokes, and that's cool. But more seriously I'm exactly the kind of person I suppose this is meant to appeal to. I've spent the last 2-3 decades breaking into systems. Many of these systems comprise what the US calls "critical infrastructure". That's pipelines, power generation, transmission, distribution. Air traffic control systems. Government agencies. I'm based in the US. The problem…

Based in the US, which law prevents you from committing cyber attacks in Russia? Genuinely curious how you would be prosecuted and how this would cause you to risk your entire career.

So in general (i.e. not specific to cyber), and even under the condition that Congress had declared war on Russia, it is illegal for civilians to engage in acts which harm the enemy. Only the military is allowed to attack.

read up on "unlawful combatant" and "irregular combatant"

Now if look more specifically at cyber, then there are laws such as

    The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA)
    The Stored Communications Act (SCA)
    The Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA)
    The Defend Trade Secrets Act (DTSA)
which define certain activities as criminal. If a person is on US soil and engaging in activities described in these laws, they may be in violation of criminal law. The location of the victim has little to do with it, it is location of the actor.

By analogy, if A does crime to B, it isn't B who prosecutes, it is the appropriate governmental organization.

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Post by Lycanthropos »

ComradePhil wrote: post #185
Ankaios wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RT is a well-known Russian propaganda operation. The fact that your response to it was "it never was anything that gave me pause" is a sign that you did not detect the propaganda and that it may have been working on you.

Meh! RT is no different from BBC or Al Jazeera or any other state media. They will have more balanced take on most news compared to any corporate propaganda outlets like CNN or Fox. The state news agencies are only problematic as sources when they are writing about their own government or immediate enemies... in that they will tend to prefer publishing what their leaders are saying vs what the enemy is saying about t…

Whenever I see RT mentioned, it's always called a "sophisticated propaganda operation" (or something along those lines), and I must say I can't help but physically cringe.

Almost as if every other news network and media company is not a propaganda operation meant to serve interests, and RT is the odd one out.

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Post by mellavora »

stickfigure wrote: post #100
bink wrote: post #94

This thread is mostly full of jokes, and that's cool. But more seriously I'm exactly the kind of person I suppose this is meant to appeal to. I've spent the last 2-3 decades breaking into systems. Many of these systems comprise what the US calls "critical infrastructure". That's pipelines, power generation, transmission, distribution. Air traffic control systems. Government agencies. I'm based in the US. The problem…

I think it's reasonable to assume that for at least the next few months, you have a strange form of "diplomatic immunity" for attacks in Russia. No jury in the US would convict you, even in the unlikely event someone wanted to prosecute (which would be political suicide here). So, have at it.

In criminal law, incitement is the encouragement of another person to commit a crime. Depending on the jurisdiction, some or all types of incitement may be illegal. Where illegal, it is known as an inchoate offense, where harm is intended but may or may not have actually occurred.

-- from wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitement

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Post by trymas »

verisimi wrote: post #370

I'm no expert on this stuff, but I don't get the partisan nature of this Ukraine Russia debate at all. Putting aside the politics of what side the US government is on... It seems very equivalent to me to when some southern states declared secession from the northern states (in 1860), there was a civil war. To Russians, Ukraine is integral to them and their identity, even if that has been the case since 1991 (a situat…

You are incorrect on so many levels - I have no idea where to begin.

Ukraine is a sovereign state independent from russia. russia dreams about soviet union comeback. Some countries are out of reach now, e.g. Baltic states which became EU and NATO members.

After russians being assholes to their neighbours for decades (if not centuries) - some neighbours decided that it's time to leave abusive relationship.

To russia Ukraine is integral only for couple of things - land buffer from the west influence, land bridge to the black sea (Crimea).

Ukrainians see how russia abuses them (e.g. frequent embargoes or price jumps for gas, and other tightly coupled economical relations they are not allowed to escape) and attempts to leave this. That's a deep blow to russia and their maniac dictator cannot allow this. F

For ages - instead of russia attempting to build proper strong and attractive economy are using force on their small neighbours. I think every single neighbor of russia (or russian empire or soviet union) was either at war or occupied in previous 100 or 200 years. Neighbouring nations (the people, not the politicians or greedy oligarchs) are attempting to flee russian influence zone, due to constant economic pressure and imminent danger. russia now attempts to paint this as "NATO expansion" or "US imperialism", but they are just old-school bully.

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Post by bratwurst3000 »

env123 wrote: post #347
reitanqild wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading this for a second time and sticking to what I said about being ashamed for many of the things the west did I'd also like to remind that Russia hasn't really done much at all in the middle East. But I can remember stories from my childhood about Russians tying up Afghan fighters and driving over them with tanks to make an example, so again without defending drone strikes on weddings or Abu Ghraib or anything o…

Looking at history, Russia seems like the lesser evil here. It makes far more sense to have security concerns over your backyard. Attacking the local mosque on the other side of the river, because a Muslim robber came by is not self-defense

Tell that people living in ukraine at the moment. They certainly think the same way.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by XaYSKkN7EVlx5tv »

neonsunset wrote: post #367

1: Small website with simple JS to ddos a list of russian gov and propaganda websites. Works anywhere where those are not blocked (e.g. Ukraine). Link - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ 2. Console tool for unplanned load testing Link - https://github.com/codesenberg/bombardier/releases/tag/v1.2.... Example usage - ./bombardier-linux-amd64 --duration=240h --connections=1000 --latencies https://lenta.ru U…

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