Soybean oil affects hypothalamus, causes genetic changes in mice: study (2020)

Post by lotsofpulp » Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 4:58 PM UTC

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>ghee Cholesterol oxides in Indian ghee: possible cause of unexplained high risk of atherosclerosis in Indian immigrant populations: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2887943/ "Substantial amounts of cholesterol oxides were found in ghee (12.3% of sterols), but not in fresh butter"

> Indian ghee We have been using ghee in India for thousands of years. If immigrant Indians are having problems, they should look into what changed in their diet and lifestyle after they immigrated.

Post by pigeonhole123 » Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 4:59 PM UTC

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Yes, vegetable oil is typically soybean oil.

I went to the kitchen just now. Damn. So vegetable oils OTHER than soybean oil is fine for mice.

Post by telchior » Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 4:59 PM UTC

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Taking account that this is unproven in humans -- it's enough for me to avoid soybean oil, as cooking oil choice is not very important for my palate. That said, which oils would you use for frying and baking? Most high smoke point oils are, like soybean, polyunsaturated, so I'd guess that they could have some of the same (proposed) negative effects. Bonus points if the alternative is widely available (I see potential…

Humanity has been using Olive Oil for at least 1000 years. So that seems pretty safe to me.

Post by retrac » Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

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From the study: > One additional note on this study — the research team has not yet isolated which chemicals in the oil are responsible for the changes they found in the hypothalamus. But they have ruled out two candidates. It is not linoleic acid, since the modified oil also produced genetic disruptions; nor is it stigmasterol, a cholesterol-like chemical found naturally in soybean oil. 1. We're not mammals that exp…

Go try and eat only coconut oil for say, 2 weeks, you'll feel the difference.

Post by sva_ » Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 5:02 PM UTC

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My understanding is that most of the oils we use are unhealthy. They are highly processed and inflammatory. The good oils are avocado oil, extra virgin olive oil and coconut oil. Is this correct?

It's more nuanced than that but you could do a lot worse than that list. Fat profile matters, and smoke point matters, e.g. olive oil is great but if you're frying stuff with it you're turning a lot of it toxic; avocado oil is better for high heat.