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Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by johnisgood »

x86_64Ubuntu wrote: post #490
thematrixturtle wrote: post #277

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This isn't really specific to COVID though, any serious illness can do a real number on you. Anecdote: I'm an avid runner and cyclist, but after I had dengue fever, it took me months to regain my fitness. I used to run 10K's before breakfast, but the first time I attempted a 5 km walk afterwards, I was basically comatose for the rest of the day.

People talk about NEVER recovering their previous cardio performance after a COVID infection. No one expects anyone to be seriously sick, and then have anything resembling their previous performance levels when they first start back.

> People talk about NEVER recovering their previous cardio performance after a COVID infection.

And how would they know, really?

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by foolinaround »

myko wrote: post #454
foolinaround wrote: post #413

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Please help correct it for the record. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, and experts need to debate each other openly, and be willing to be shown as wrong. Hard in real life, I guess.

Please read about the burden of proof: https://www.qcc.cuny.edu/socialsciences/ppecorino/phil_of_re... There is no evidence supporting the claims about vaccines killing people. Please show evidence if you would like to push that point of view.

its interesting that you ask me for burden of proof.

The central claim is that vaccine manufacturers have not provided sufficient burden of proof that it is safe (for those not accepting). That should be logical for any product. You seem to inverse it.

Several of the vaccines claims are falling apart, further stoking the fears. When people write about this, rather than showing why they are wrong, they are cancelled out. This leads to further suspicion, and the cycle continues.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

nodamage wrote: post #482
nodamage wrote: post #298

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> So why do you need to have a vaccine pass to go places? You can still carry the virus and infect people. Even if they aren't 100% effective, vaccines still reduce both the likelihood that you will become infected and also the likelihood that you will transmit the virus to others.

Not sure why this was downvoted? Studies have shown that vaccination does indeed reduce both susceptibility and transmissibility ( https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.27.21268278v... ).

It's downvoted because HN has a very strong and vibrant anti-vax community.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by hispanic »

peteradio wrote: post #431
spupe wrote: post #168

These numbers are exceptionally high on aggregate. From the article: "out of every 1,000 people studied, there were around 4 more people in the COVID-19 group than in the control group who experienced stroke." This means that for every million people who got COVID-19, we would expect 4,000 more strokes. Using a lower-bound estimate that 50% of the population will get COVID-19 at some point, this would mean roughly 65…

You seem to be assuming the U.S. is made up exclusively of 60 year old veterans.

While the study appears to be based on VA data, I don't see anything about it being based on 60-year-olds.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by t0bia_s »

kodah wrote: post #84
dzink wrote: post #39

COVID and the autoimmune response to it damages the endothelial layer of your cardiovascular systems. https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/ATVBAHA.121.316101 and https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-021-00819-6 The big question is how quickly and completely can that layer restore itself? If damage accumulates over time and people are catching new variants every 3-4 months it is only a matter of time before morta…

I had Delta once. Prior to it I would ride 30 miles on my bike like it was a breezy day. When I'd take breaks to vacation or whatever I could pick back up easily. A year after COVID, I'm struggling to hit 20 miles and I lose my progress easily. I'm not sure it's COVID related, but nothing else has changed in my life.

Are you vaccinated?

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by dang »

NullInvictus wrote: post #192

Every COVID story here is an interesting little glimpse into how a seemingly normal forum has their latent political views exploited into adopting a conspiracy theory, re: anti-vaccine rhetoric. It becomes a little more extreme every day. This study has nothing to do with the vaccine, and yet this is what HN clamors for. I wonder how many people here understand what kind of ride they're being taken for.

That's not an accurate reflection of HN. It would be more accurate to say that the topic is divisive and so has blocks of strongly-feeling users on all sides of the topic. That's true of every divisive topic and it would be unreasonable to expect otherwise.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by dang »

adflux wrote: post #204
YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote: post #199

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This, and I don't understand why there isn't more scrutiny from the moderators. Especially the one-day old accounts are the most annoying part. If you have hottakes at least have the curtousy to do it with your primary account so we know who to ignore afterwards.

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Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. That's just what we don't want here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: you've been posting a lot of unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments. Would you please stop doing that? We ban accounts that do it repeatedly.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by dang »

YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote: post #214
adflux wrote: post #204

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There are enough idiots like you in this threads that spread lies or comment stupid shit like "If YoUr OpInIoN iS dIfFerEnT fRoM mInE, i WiLl IgNoRe YoU" that I don't want myself to be associated with them or you so you are absolutely right. You are ignored.

We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines and ignoring our request to stop. It's not ok to post like this to HN, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are.

If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by yay_throw »

wwweston wrote: post #485
yay_throw wrote: post #281

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All of the replies to this completely ignore those of us who have families, and especially young families. Good for you if the sudden removal of responsibilities gave you the freedom to get outside for long periods every day. However, frankly people like this were the main reason I had to quit Strava. While my wife and I struggled to hold our lives and jobs together when it became illegal to have anyone else look aft…

Childcare is definitely an issue in so many contexts, can definitely recognize that. Hopefully that's something more people are thinking about going forward with an eye towards the social value of it and the problems of people facing it in even non-epidemic situations. But gains from no-commute / remote setups weren't limited to single/childless people. Some of the people I know who were taking rides / runs in the hi…

>I also saw people continue babysitting or au pair arrangements

I mean what I said. Where I live (Wales, UK), it was illegal to have people in your house (and obviously, that meant you also couldn't go into anyone else's house) until mid-2021. Obviously, we did not follow that law, as it was absurd and would have caused significant harm to me and those close to me.

Do not patronise me, by suggesting I should have "planned better" or "adjusted quicker". Saying such things is incredibly demeaning to the effort we did have to go to, to do our best as a family. Trust me, once I realised that no-one else was looking out for us, I did plenty to ensure that those closest to me would be ok (and mostly, that consisted of breaking newly-passed Covid laws, including the one I already mentioned. It was also illegal for me to go to our nearby woodland, because we were not allowed to leave the county we live in and I live in a city that is its own county.). I am proud to say that my two young kids will probably have no memory of Covid, and am very proud to say that we have also not succumbed to the new parenting norm of allowing kids of almost any age to spend as much time as they like staring at screens. In doing so, selfish pursuits like my cycling and other hobbies have had to take a back seat.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by t0bia_s »

"it is important that those who are not vaccinated get their vaccine immediately."

Sounds like another biased article to promote experimental vaccines. Curiously right after so many studies about increased hear failures, myocarditis and pericarditis in healthy population and dying athletes in front of the cameras.

> https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346 > https://swprs.org/covid-vaccines-a-reality-check/ > https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.21.21268209v... > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0 > https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arre...

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