I think I mentioned this before but I had the strangest Covid experience - for years I've struggled with Opiates/Cocaine & to a lesser degree Alcohol. I got Covid early on & since recovering have little to no desire for that stuff - so I've stopped drinking, dont use anymore & am (slowly) coming off my maintanence medication. I'm only one person of course but I find it the strangest thing..
Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case
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Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
While there are several problems with that paper, it should be noted, as an epidemiologist, that the publication timelines for COVID-19 papers have gone well and truly pear shaped.
Are there any problems with that paper that would invalidate their conclusion that myocarditis is more likely in young men who get Moderna than young men who get Covid?
My biggest concern is the studies that have been comparing myocarditis induced by the vaccine vs. those with MIS-C from COVID-19 that show that they're not necessarily directly comparable - the vaccine-induced version is also milder.
It is elevated, but the implications of that depend wildly on things like case rates, as events/vaccine doses is static, and events/cases is dynamic. A conclusion reached in Sept., 2021 misses a huge upswing in cases in young men from Omicron, which while milder on a per-case bases has also caused a lot more cases (to use a gaming analogy, making better saving throws, but making a lot of them).
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you know if the immune response from the vaccine also causes that damage or not?
The vaccine antigen is only a small part of the virus. Furthermore is was modified and is inert. https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/vaccines/tiny-tweak-behi... Because of international pharmacovigilance we know that ARNm vaccine induce some myocarditis and pericarditis, at a much lower rate than the virus and less severe.
50% and lower rate (the hk children myocarditis study) isn't a "much lower rate". Factor in omnicron and the clear difference between vaccinating everyone and 10% of society getting the virus and unsolvable questions should begin to arise.
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
Related to your "exposed to" vs "infected" point, I've been wanting to check my understanding on something, and hopefully someone here can provide a more informed opinion. Immunity can be boosted through exposure, right? For instance, if someone was vaccinated, but then exposed and was lucky enough not to develop an infection from their exposure, are they immunologically better off as a result of that exposure? I thi…
Yes, but probably not much. It also depends on how many particles it takes to get you sick. Norovirus is only 7, which is insane and also why it spreads so easily. Hard to have just an exposure to that!
Norovirus is just bonkers.
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
COVID is not endemic.
I see endemic used to mean different things. I think most people just mean that it is now established and won't go away. That it will be a constant presence in our lives. I believe epidemiologists also require that infection rates remain roughly constant and don't exhibit wild swings in infection numbers. I guess we're still in an epidemic.
Epidemiologically, endemic is that the rates of disease are within expectation - for example, there's a statistical threshold for flu every year. There can still be swings - seasonal diseases for example.
There is no sane universe where COVID-19 is endemic from an epidemiological standpoint.
It also doesn't imply that we should stop doing things.
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#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
And still, the best backtrace we can find for omicron leads far away from any vaccinated populations. Just pointing out because your words seem to lean suggestively towards implying a causal relationship. You know what might, perhaps have prevented omicron? The whole world going "China" January/February/March 2020. But only perhaps, because OG SarsCov2 was so capable of jumping between species that it would have like…
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...
Thanks. So much for "no transmission outdoors".
Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case
#297From the article: >Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study shows. > “I am actually surprised by these findings that cardiovascular complications of COVID can last so long,” Does this imply that the risk decreases with time as the body recovers? Or is the elevated risk permanent?
Risk decreases over time, but the distribution of time-until-recovery is longer than one might hope.
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#298This comment will probably get flagged, but I am genuinely curious from a scientific lens. What is the distribution of post-COVID heart disease conditional on having taken the vaccine?
This is actually the best reason to have people remain unvaccinated, and to not strictly mandate vaccines. I'm pro-vax (god, why do I have to say that?) but what's seriously pissed me off about this whole COVID thing is how quickly it became political. At the beginning there was a real sense of "we're in this together" but now you can be pretty certain of someones political affiliation if they choose not to wear a ma…
> So why do you need to have a vaccine pass to go places? You can still carry the virus and infect people.
Even if they aren't 100% effective, vaccines still reduce both the likelihood that you will become infected and also the likelihood that you will transmit the virus to others.
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
Omicron is not unstoppable. See mainland China. See Taiwan.
Trusting the numbers that come out of China, yeah right. Taking a look at your post history, you seem to spend a considerable amount of time defending China, what's up with that?
It's not necessary to trust the numbers. If they had large outbreaks, we would know. We are talking about a country of 1.4 billion people which has plenty of contact with the outside world, it's not North Korea. They could cook the numbers but it would just be impossible to hide widespread community spread.
Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case
#300These numbers are exceptionally high on aggregate. From the article: "out of every 1,000 people studied, there were around 4 more people in the COVID-19 group than in the control group who experienced stroke." This means that for every million people who got COVID-19, we would expect 4,000 more strokes. Using a lower-bound estimate that 50% of the population will get COVID-19 at some point, this would mean roughly 65…
...and that's a generously low lower bound, because at this point, the only thing that could prevent a percentage approaching 100% would be a (near) extinction event like an asteroid strike or an all-out nuclear war.
Luckily, the latter is not entirely out of the question now! (Thank you Russia!)