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Gut microbe linked to depression in large health study

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Re: Gut microbe linked to depression in large health study

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Post by doublepg23 »

jcynix wrote: post #224
doublepg23 wrote: post #215

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I've been tracking my food the past couple months and it's pretty eye opening how much fiber I've been lacking. Now taking supplements, but is there a food you'd recommend in particular? It's silly, especially to admit on this forum, but I found the Hidrate water bottle that tracks your water consumption actually increased my water intake loads as well.

Besides fresh vegetables, I like oatmeal / porridge, freshly cooked with skimmed milk as a breakfast, which is a good start in the day. You can combine it with fresh fruit if you like. Or take a look at bircher muesli.

I will for sure check that out. My usual go-to breakfast is Soylent at the moment. My food tracking app (Cronometer) seems to insist it has too much fat, however.

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Post by Dma54rhs »

hutzlibu wrote: post #157
Dma54rhs wrote: post #135

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Anti - GMO crowd is definetly very similar to anti vaxxers and other science deniers spreading dangerous propaganda while eating oranges and bananas.

Are you implying oranges and bananas were made with modern GMO methods? I agree that the anti gmo/vaxx etc. crowd is quite irrational in many regards, but I can see a difference between traditional breeding plants - and directly editing DNA.

I don't but we've been doing generical modification by trying to put two random things plants together since dawn of times.

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Post by halpert »

throw_me_up wrote: post #178
baxtr wrote: post #159

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Why only more vegetables? Isn’t fiber also in some other food?

Fiber being a type of carb is also found in other high carb foods like beans, whole grains, potatoes (with skin), and popcorn. Beans are the best source of fiber by a mile in terms of quantity.

What makes beans better than psyllium husk, which has been shown to substantially lower cholesterol?

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Post by halpert »

aszantu wrote: post #229

Someone been telling me, my depression comes from bacteria, I KNOW! Pain is... if I eat something plant based, depression and suicidal thoughts come back. Takes about 4 days after I ate the offending food, stays for 3 days, then I'm back to normal and energetic. Latest experiment was one teaspoon of fermented green squash daily, seemed to work out okay for 5 days or so, then depression came back, BUT I could smell it…

That seems pretty crazy. What have you tried to remedy the issue? Fecal transplant?

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Post by ycombinete »

doublepg23 wrote: post #215
nemo44x wrote: post #167

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Fiber is so incredibly important and much of our food in the West doesn’t have much of it. We see colon cancers and diverticulitis in people in their 30’s and even late 20’s nowadays. This wasn’t the case years ago and it’s not the case in Asian or African countries. But we don’t think it’s genetic because we see diverticulitis in people from these parts of the world 10 years after moving to the West. It’s thought th…

I've been tracking my food the past couple months and it's pretty eye opening how much fiber I've been lacking. Now taking supplements, but is there a food you'd recommend in particular? It's silly, especially to admit on this forum, but I found the Hidrate water bottle that tracks your water consumption actually increased my water intake loads as well.

I find frozen veggies like peas and corn, and fresh green beans are fantastic. They go with everything, and can be prepared in 5 minutes!

Also cruciferous green vegetables, potatoes (boiled or baked, not fried).

I don’t eat salads because of my hiatus hernia, and I generally prefer cooked food, but they are also good.

For breakfast I eat grains. Oats (quick cooking mixed with steel-cut). Or sorghum, and even wheat grains also make really nice cooked cereals.

Also can’t forget the other legumes/pulses lie lentils and chickpeas!

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Post by imwillofficial »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #205
Asooka wrote: post #183

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I get my fiber from oatmeal. Simple plain rolled oats, no sugary additives, roast with a bit of olive oil in a pan to unlock their full nutritional potential, then cover with enough water, add salt and let simmer. Consume with appropriate additions as desired, I usually go for plain yogurt.

You wrote: > I never heard of this technique before. I tried to Google about it, but I cannot find any scientific studies about it. (I found plenty of pseudo science websites touting it.) Can you point to any scientific studies about this technique?

Personal observation is scientific.

Re: Gut microbe linked to depression in large health study

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Post by imwillofficial »

zackmorris wrote: post #99

Just another data point, but my journey through digestive issues and recovery was kicked off by the worst depression and burnout I ever experienced, which started in 2019 and lasted 3 years. My best guess for what happened is that work stress, excessive celebration and coping with the cognitive dissonance of the pre-COVID era and subsequent pandemic, combined with overtraining and the misuse of protein shakes in plac…

I’m in a similar boat, how did you recover, if you did?

Re: Gut microbe linked to depression in large health study

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Post by imwillofficial »

Dma54rhs wrote: post #135
sdze wrote: post #114

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Also why would GMO be bad? The criticism comes mostly from people that also believe in osteopathic / homeopathic medicine in my social circle. I find it a terrific chance for humanity to engineer plants in such a way that they are more robust against disease and bad weather (with CRISPR/CAS and such methods).

Anti - GMO crowd is definetly very similar to anti vaxxers and other science deniers spreading dangerous propaganda while eating oranges and bananas.

“science deniers”

Like, say, Galileo?

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Post by chrisco255 »

thenerdhead wrote: post #87

I've seen these studies time and time again. I do wonder what are the practical steps one takes to "repair" or "renew" their gut? I'm not a fan of drugs being the cure. In fact, I don't think they are the first solution people should hope for or supplement with unless it's not practical to get them in a natural way. I feel like we see more and more gut related issues due to depression & depression's little cousin anx…

You could try an isolation diet. Just pick one basic food, such as steak or baked potatoes only, with no toppings except for maybe salt. And eat just that thing for a week or so. Then see how you feel after your gut adjusts. Then gradually add things back into your diet or start with a different food from square one. Not the easiest plan to implement by any stretch, but it's very effective as you're limiting confounding variables for figuring it out.
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